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Dr. Jose Rizal’s language very much alive in Bro. Eli Soriano

Analyzing text at a Language Translation ClinicOn Friday, June 19, 2009, the Filipinos would again be marking Dr. Jose Rizal’s 148th birthday. Jose Protacio Rizal Mercado, born June 19, 1861 at Calamba, Laguna, is recognized a national hero. At the young age of 35, the man considered as the greatest Filipino patriot of all time, accused of treason by the Spanish colonial government, was shot by a firing squad.

Historical records bear no name as to who killed Jose Rizal but his very own countrymen were used to shoot him dead. Nothing was also identified as the exact reason for his killing. In fact, Rizalista websites suggest that it was his turning to truth that did him in.

In 1889, Rizal wrote a Letter to the Young Women of Malolos, praising them for their courage. At that time, the country was under the rule of Spain, which rule ended in1898.

Filipininana.net describes the background:

Written in Tagalog, Jose Rizal wrote this letter – upon the request of Marcelo H. del Pilar – on 17 February 1889 in London while annotating Morga’s book. The letter praises the young women of Malolos for their perseverance to pursue the establishment of a “night school” where they can study Spanish. Based on accounts, on 12 December 1888, 20 young women from Malolos petitioned Governor-General Weyler for the establishment of a “night school” to study Spanish under Teodoro Sandiko, a professor of Latin. However, Fr. Felipe Garcia, the Spanish parish priest, objected to the petition, prompting the governor-general to dismiss the petition. Unperturbed, the young women continued with their clamor (for the establishment of the school) and eventually succeeded. Señora Guadalupe Reyes became the teacher of the women. The school remained open for three months. (Written by Teresa Lovely C. Rebatis ; Edited by Frederick N. Castillo).

THERE IS NO MORE RIZAL in the country, but his language is very much alive. Some sectors believe that listening to Bro. Eliseo Soriano of Ang Dating Daan, will make one notice a striking resemblance. Rizal is dead; Soriano is alive; but two of them speak the same language, same tone, same fervor in spirit. Two of them speak without fear; two of them wanted for their dauntless articulations.

Rizal was considered by the Spaniards as one of the best writers around. Soriano is hated for his most articulate tongue that spared no one that deceived anyone. Rizal was an exile; Soriano now is. Both men left their country to have an easier time to breathe and do their own work.

Preacher Soriano is alive but he is being hunted – by those who cannot stand his tongue. Should people one day find him killed by his own countrymen, it is not far-fetched. The ministers of the Iglesia ni Cristo in the Ang Tamang Daan of Net 25 had already been boldly suggesting his death by way of saying that a coffin, red carpet, and candles are ready, as well as the Amurao Funeral Home for Bro. Soriano. The Ang Dating Daan sector believe that it will happen, however, only if God allows it.

Bro. Soriano is the Presiding Minister of the Members Church of God International (MCGI) with church locales in six continents. The Ang Dating Daan (The Old Path) is his highly successful radio-tv program that has consistently garnered web awards in the last six years. MCGI is more popularly known to the public as Ang Dating Daan.

Here are the excerpts from Rizal’s Letter that bears the usual discourses of Bro. Eli Soriano. The resemblance was much noted in a Translation Clinic given recently to some 40 Ang Dating Daan participants for language translation exercises. Without an author’s name, the excerpts were thought to come from Bro. Soriano’s bible exposition discourses.

THE EXCERPTS

Now that you have responded to our first appeal for the welfare of our people; now that you have set an example for those who, like you, long to have their eyes opened and be delivered from servitude, our hopes are revived and with you as our allies we even dare to face adversity, confident of victory.

No longer do Filipino women have to stand with their heads bowed or appear on bended knees. Hope for the future now quickened their heart-beats. No longer is there any mother who will contribute to the blindness of her daughter and raise her in self-contempt and utter moral debasement. Submission to an unjust order or ready complaisance is no longer the quintessence of wisdom. Nor a polite smile now the only weapon against insult or a humble tear the ineffable panacea for all tribulations.

You already know that God’s will is different and distinct from the will of a priest; that religiousness does not consist in bending one’s knees for a long time, much less in mumbling kilometrical prayers, counting the heads of big rosaries, and wearing grimy scapularies. It consists rather in spotless conduct, in the purity of one’s intention and in the uprightness of one’s judgment or criterion. You know that prudence does not mean blind obedience to whatever whims may strike the fancy of godlings. It means doing what is reasonable and just, because blind obedience is itself the cause of such whims, and hence those who provoke them are the real sinners.

Officials or friars can no longer assert that they alone are responsible for their unjust orders, because God has endowed each person with reason and a will of his or her own, and that reason enables its possessor to distinguish what is just from what is unjust. All of us were born free, unshackled, and nobody has the right to subjugate the will and the spirit of another. And why should one submit one’s thoughts, free and noble, to another?

It is cowardice and a mistake to believe that saintliness is blind obedience and that prudence and the ability to think are signs of presumption. Ignorance has ever been ignorance; it has never been prudence and honor. God, the primal source of all wisdom, does not demand that man, created in his own image, allow himself to be deceived or hoodwinked. He wants us to use and let shine the light of reason with which he has so mercifully endowed us. He is like the father who handed a torch to each of his sons to light their way in the darkness, bidding them to keep its flame ever bright and not to trust to the light of the others, but to help and advise one another to find the right path. Fools they would be if they fell headlong for following the light of another; and the father would be right in reproaching them, thus: “Did I not give a torch to each of you?” But he would have no reason to hide them if they fell due to the light of their respective torches because then the light might have been dim and the road extremely bad.

Nobody, but nobody, talks like this anymore in the country except Bro. Eli Soriano. When it comes to truth, he cannot stop talking – not even add nor diminish, he says.

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  1. Phillip Garcia
    June 14, 2009 at 10:46 am | #1

    With a tongue that speaks of matters of truth and substance sharper than any twoedged sword, no wonder enemies of truth desire to permanently shut Bro. Eli Soriano’s mouth, just as their fathers did with Dr. Jose Rizal.

    Indeed, some of us are reminded of our hero’s cause through Bro. Eli, through that same unswerving dedication to inform the deceived by exposing the deceivers, through that same straightforward speech with the evident mastery of the Scriptures, through that same courage and sincerity notwithstanding the consequences.

    Indeed, to some, Dr. Jose Rizal’s language is very much alive in Bro. Eli Soriano; to those whose ears have been perverted, however, the hero’s voice remains unrecognizable.

  2. June 14, 2009 at 10:57 am | #2

    If Jose Rizal would be alive today, he would have been shot and executed by the powerful influences in the Philippine nation. Choose. a) Arroyo Government b) catholic church c) IGLESIA NI CRISTO d) businessmen

    • aron
      October 10, 2009 at 9:25 am | #3

      i choose arroyo government not IGLESIA NI CRISTO

      • keloy
        October 10, 2009 at 9:27 am | #4

        i will not go to IGLESIA NI CRISTO because they are killer my mom killed by their ministers by traffic conflict they shot my mom at my car and they warned me if they want me to be the next..fcuk you all INC!!

      • October 10, 2009 at 2:33 pm | #5

        Oh?

        You see, even if they killed Rizal, there would be other Rizals that can come up to speak they way he was speaking.

        Rizal was fearless.

      • leeyo
        December 30, 2010 at 3:14 am | #6

        arroyo’s under the power of INC. believing that she owes them a lot because if it wasn’t because of them, she wouldn’t be in her place when she was a president.

    • February 16, 2010 at 5:58 am | #7

      @Josepherdon

      If Rizal is alive today, he will never, ever join your cultic ADD group. Why? Because Rizal himself said this:

      In a letter dated November 11, 1892 to Fr. Pastells, he wrote:

      “As to my being a Protestant, Your Reverence would not say such a thing if you only knew WHAT I LOST FOR NOT DECLARING MYSELF IN AGREEMENT WITH PROTESTANT TENETS. had I not always respected religious ideas; had I regarded religion as a science of conveniences or an art of enjoying life; I would now be a rich and free man crowned with honors, instead of being a poor deportee. RIZAL, A PROTESTANT! SOMETHING IN ME MOVES ME TO LAUGHTER, BUT I AM RESTRAINED BY MY RESPECT FOR ALL THAT YOU SAY.”

      Rizal, even if it means losing everything, will not agree with protestant tenets, much more in the doctrine of your cultic group even. It is an absurd idea, according to the hero. That’s a fact that you have to accept.

      • February 16, 2010 at 7:35 am | #8

        @ Parabanog

        Josepherdon did not say anything about Rizal wanting to join ADD.

        ADD is not protestant.

      • hackershooter
        December 30, 2011 at 2:35 pm | #9

        @parabanog

        ADD is not a cult. All its teachings are Bible Truths! For crying out loud, Catholicism is THE most deviously deviant cult of all. Catholic teachings and practices is fornicated with paganism. And if you haven’t known yet, The pope calling himself the Holy Father is the greatest blasphemy, therefore a curse to humankind. .

  3. HaZeL
    June 14, 2009 at 11:37 am | #10

    Through the power of his pen, Dr. Jose Rizal was made the Philippines’ national hero. There’s one thing though that makes Bro. Eli a far greater hero than Rizal – Rizal desired to free the Filipinos from the unjust hands of the friars, Bro. Eli works for the salvation not only of the Filipinos but of all races.

    • 100 PERCENT ELISARIAN
      September 4, 2009 at 1:51 pm | #11

      Very well said sister…

      Hair-raising, goosebump- stimulating…

      I’m 100 percent elisarian..

    • December 16, 2009 at 3:38 pm | #12

      Malaki ang deperensya ni Rizal kay Soriano. Si Rizal, hinarap yung umaakusa sa kanya sa tribuna. Si Soriano ayaw humarap sa kasong isinampa laban sa kanya sa diumano sa panghahalay sa kapwa lalaki. Yun ang deperensya.

      • Etolang
        December 29, 2009 at 10:15 am | #13

        Iniingatan ng Dios si Bro. Eli sa mga taong katulad mo na sobrang itim ng budhi. Si Puto ba yung tinutukoy mo? YUNG BAKLANG PUTO NA NATIWALAG SA SAMAHAN NG IGLESIA NG DIOS DAHIL SA PANGHAHALAY NG MGA LALAKING KAPATID?

        YUNG BAKLANG PUTO NA NATIWALAG SA SAMAHAN NG IGLESIA NG DIOS AT PAGKATAPOS AY BUMALING SA INC, AT IBININTANG KAY BRO. ELI ANG MGA KASALANANG SIYA ANG GUMAWA?

        YUNG BAKLANG PUTO NA NATIWALAG SA SAMAHAN NG IGLESIA NG DIOS AT PUMUNTA SA INC?

        YUNG INC NA TAMBAKAN NG MGA BULOK NA BASURA NG IGLESIA NG DIOS? AT NAGSASAMA-SAMA PARA GULUHIN AT PIGILAN ANG PANGANGARAL NG TUNAY NA EVANGELIO?

        YUNG INC NA PUNONG-PUNO NG MGA SINUNGALING, PLASTIK AT KRIMINAL?

        HINDI BA’T MARAMI NG KRIMEN ANG GINAWA NG INC ANG NAPATUNAYANG TOTOO? SUPREME COURT OF THE PHILIPPINES AT MGA WITNESS/JUDGE NA PINATAY DIN NG MGA INC?

        ANO NGA BA ANG INC? VALUABLE WEAPON NI SATANAS? SECRET AGENTS NI TANING? HAYY.

      • Virgilio G. Santos
        December 30, 2010 at 1:19 am | #14

        Kaibigan,
        Si Soriano humaharap sa discussion kapag PANANAMPALATAYA ang pinaguusapan pero c MANALO takot ipagtangol ang kanyang IGLESIA NI CRISTO na TAO. Kaya gumawa ng maraming katha laban kay Soriano itong c Manalo para mailigaw ang mga tao s totoong issue.Kung ako BOBO napaniwala na me nitong c MANALO, kaso marunong akong magsuri SORRY ka na lang MANALO. Lahat ng ginagawa nyo BINIBINTANG nyo kay SORIANO. CONCLUSION: Ang tunay na BAKLA ay c MANALO, di makalabas s kanyang LUNGA, nakabaon ang KUKO s LUPA.TAKOT NA TAKOT kay Soriano na lumaban s isang MAGINOONG DISCUSSION s TV para di mapatay c Soriano ng mga kampon ni SATANAS.

      • romulo catbagan
        December 30, 2010 at 1:12 pm | #15

        papaano mo haharapin, kung lahat ay naiayos na ng kalaban mo ang lahat… dismissed na ng lower court. ang ginawa ng mga ulupong… dinukot pa ang kaso at pinalalabas na may kaso pang nakahain.iba talaga pag mapera at makapangyarihan kuno ang kalaban mo… lahat gagawin nila para mapabagsak si kapatid na eli soriano. sila ang babagsak sa ginagawa nilang panggigipit sa kanya.kami ay tinuturuan ni kapatid na eli soriano na ipasadiyos ang lahat ng pag-iingat sa kanila at hayaan na ang ama ang gumanti sa nang-aapi sa kanyang mga anak…

      • crisG
        September 15, 2011 at 6:47 am | #16

        Matalino si Jose Rizal at matuwid kaya nga naunawaan nya ang Biblia. Di lamang sya nagkaroon ng pagkakataon na maihayag ang katotohanang alam nya dahil pinatay na siya. Si Brod Eli ay may malalim na kaalaman sa Biblia kaya nga niya hindi binibigyan ng pagkakataon ang masasamang umuusig sa kanya dahil tulad ni Rizal, alam ni Brod Eli na papatayin din sya. . Pahaharapin nyo si Brod Eli para magawa nyo ang gusto nyong gawin? Ano kami, hilo? Duwag ang mga umuusig kay Brod Eli na di umubra sa debate. Hinamon sila, lumaban ba ng Debate? Si Brod Eli namin, lagi naming nakikita at nakakausap, natatanong tungkol sa aming pananampalataya, yang sugo nyo, pastor, pari, etc. etc pang awag nyo, natananong nyo ba? OK kung natatanong nyo. . kami ba – pwde ding magtanong? alam ko na ang sagot nyo HINDI !!!! KAYA NGA PURO DEMANDA NA LANG GINAGAWA NYONG KAYO DIN LANG ANG NANINIWALA . . SINO NILOLOKO NYO????? DINADAYA NYO LANG SARILI NYO. . EH KUNG KAYA NYONG DAYAIN SARILI NYO. . E SINO PA KAYA ANG DI NYO DADAYAIN ? BUKSAN MO LANG TENGA MO AT IMULAT MO MATA MO . . ALAM MO NA DI MO KAMI MAPAPANIWALA NA NANINIWALA KAYO SA SARILI NYONG AKUSASYON KAY BROD ELI. . ALAM NA ALAM NYO NA MABUTING TAO SI BROD ELI AT ALAM KONG KUMBINSIDO KAYO TUNGKOL DITO . . (shhhhh . . tigilan nyo na yan. . dahil di kami MANINIWALA sa paninira nyo. . sumama na kayo sa amin at makikita mo na tama kami MALING-MALI KAYO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (tigilan mo muna nga pala parabanog (parainom ng lambanog kung iyan kung iyan kahulugan ng pen name mo) pasensya na kung yan naman ang last name mo. . . sori sa mga kamag-anak mo. . di po sinasadya (PERO SINASADYA NAMING GISINGIN KAYO SA PAGKAHIMBING) – - kasi pag tulog, madaling lokohin . . kaya gising ka na brad bago nahuli ang lahat. . . mahal ka kasi namin ka ya ka namin tinitiyaga . .

      • V. G. Santos
        September 15, 2011 at 3:39 pm | #17

        Hello Parang Bano,
        Alam mo ba kung ano binilin ng sinasabi nyong sugong c MANALO bago cya mamatay? Kung di mo alam, sabihin ko s u, sabi ng sugo mong c MANALO “eliminate ELI SORIANO at all cost”. Alam mo ba kung bakit, sabihin ko rin s u, kc kung baga s ulo ang INC nalulugas na ang buhok. Sa madaling salita, nalalagas na mga MEMBERS nyo. Kc namumulat na mga mata kapag nadidinig c BRO ELI na nagsasabi ng pawang mga KATOTOHAN na ikababanal ng TAO. Huwag na kayong masyadong MAYABANG ,c Gloria Arroyo wala na s pwesto, its PAY BACK TIME. Lagot kayo ngayon.
        Kawawa ka naman, pati ikaw nadaya ni MANALO.Magbago ka sana habang maaga di pa huli.

  4. June 14, 2009 at 11:42 am | #18

    History states that Dr. Jose Rizal was executed by Spanish Government (using his fellow countrymen then) because he turned his back against Catholicism. Details of his life and works reveal that his awakening from a religious birth was what made his life difficult. Especially during the time that he was speaking of (or writing of) the truth that he had discovered opposing the Catholics’ beliefs – they made it very difficult for him. Up to his death – via execution.

    It’s not a wonder anymore if the man today named Bro. Eliseo Soriano, whose language is similar with that of Rizal’s, by speaking the truth to the people, is also experiencing difficulties courtesy of the government in his own country and powerful religions that are in the same spirit of the Catholicism during Rizal’s time.

  5. June 14, 2009 at 12:42 pm | #19

    The English translation is actually a softened version of the original.

    Rizal does not hesitate to say, ulol (fool) and tanga (stupid) – just like Bro. Soriano. He goes straightaway to utter “fool” and “stupid.” As is where is.

    To the supposedly saintly ones, they cannot even pronounce it. In Net25, hear them say t-a-n-g-a.

    Haha! Holy, my eye!

    • October 10, 2009 at 1:54 pm | #20

      INCM DI RAW MARUNONG MAGMURA?

      INCM finds it difficult to utter “fool” and “stupid”, so, the holier than thou INCM Ministers that they are, Michael Sandoval and Ramil Parba, they resorted to spelling it.

      Michael Sandoval even helped Ramil Parba to spell T-A-N-G-A. In english it’s like spelling S-T-U-P-I-D.

      But how about Erano Manalo?

      In this YouTube video clip, INCM Minister Michael Sandoval can now utter the term “GAGO” or “FOOL” in its tagalog superlative form “NAPAKA”, as he save the face of his Executive Minister.

      Executive Minister Erano Manalo, referred to INCM Administration saying, “…napakagagong pangagasiwa…”.

      ADD vs INC – nagmumura si manalo

      INCM Minister Paul Guevarra gave his thumbs up to play Erano Manalo’s lecture voice tape.

  6. qkswrd
    June 14, 2009 at 3:09 pm | #21

    Rizal as Dr. Reinhold Rost of the British Museum puts it: A gem of a man.

    Bro. Soriano is the same. Both have fervor spirit to serve the country, Rizal for being patriotic, the latter for spiritual awareness of the people. They educate people by their action, words and having the “sense” which is not very common in our age.

    Sad to say many people are easily swayed by the “voices” of the not-so-majority. But people are not forever dumb; many have opened their mind to listen, accept a thought taken from the Holy Scriptures being preached by the only sensible preacher of our time, a Filipino in the person of Bro. Soriano – mighty in the scripture, truthful and logically sound in arguments.

    That is Bro. Eli Soriano for you.

  7. June 15, 2009 at 12:25 am | #22

    Very true.

    Bro. Eli Soriano’s seemingly foul language is as striking as Dr. Jose Rizal’s audacious words that put him to death. (May God forbid the same fate would happen to Soriano.)

    This world needs more of these brave men who are willing to die for the truth.

    ACTS 20:24 (KJV)

    But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

    • June 15, 2009 at 2:31 am | #23

      Could this be the true Rizal speaking or a proof of catholic forgery? He did retract the day before his execution?

      Haha! One day, they’re going to produce one like this and declare that Bro. Eli Soriano wrote one also to his destruction.

      Here’s what they claim Rizal wrote [Ref: WikiAnswers] -

      I declare myself a catholic and in this Religion in which I was born and educated I wish to live and die.

      I retract with all my heart whatever in my words, writings, publications and conduct has been contrary to my character as son of the Catholic Church. I believe and I confess whatever she teaches and I submit to whatever she demands. I abominate Masonry, as the enemy which is of the Church, and as a Society prohibited by the Church. The Diocesan Prelate may, as the Superior Ecclesiastical Authority, make public this spontaneous manifestation of mine in order to repair the scandal which my acts may have caused and so that God and people may pardon me.

      Manila 29 of December of 1896

      Jose Rizal

      • joyce esteban
        June 15, 2009 at 3:19 am | #24

        As ministers can’t fight in a manly and honorable manner to Bro. Soriano’s invitation for a debate, they just resort to making tales. What a coward response!

        If Rizal really wrote that on the night before he died, it will contradict what he has written in his Letter to the Women of Malolos.

        Yeah, exact words, kotawinters, it’s forgery… Rizal might have been a victim, too. Because this is what he wrote…

        “Piety does not consist in a worn-out nose nor in Christ’s successor known for giving his hand to be kissed. He did not fatten the rich and proud scribes. He did not mention scapulars, he did not require the wearing of rosaries, he did not ask money for Masses, and he did not charge for saying prayers. St. John did not ask to be paid for baptizing on the Jordan River nor Christ for preaching. Why is it that now priests ask to be paid for every move they make? And still hungry, they sell scapulars, rosaries, belts, and other things to entice money and to hurt the soul; because even if you wear a scapular all the rags on earth, wear as rosaries all the wood in the forests, gird around your waist all the skin of animals and over all of them all the priests in the world take pains to make the sign of the cross and to murmur prayers, and sprinkle them with all the water of the sea, they cannot cleanse the dirty heart, they cannot absolve the unrepentant of sins. Likewise, for their covetousness they forbid many things, such as eating meat, marrying one’s cousin, compadre, and the like, which however are permitted if one pays. Why, can God be bought and is He dazzled by money like the priests? The thief who pays for a bull for composition can rest assured that he has been forgiven. Therefore, God wants to partake of stolen goods? Is it true that God is so needy that He imitates the carabineer or the civil guard? IF THIS IS THE GOD THAT THE FRIARS WORSHIP, I TURN MY BACK TO SUCH A GOD. “

  8. June 15, 2009 at 2:53 am | #25

    ADD to your FAITH,

    Please clarify your stand.

    How do you find the language of Bro. Soriano?

    The Press describes it as COLORFUL. It makes him reap more court cases though.

    What did you mean by SEEMINGLY FOUL?

    • addtoyourfaith
      June 15, 2009 at 5:06 am | #26

      Truth hurts.

      What I mean about “seemingly foul” is “appearing as such but not necessarily so”.

      Both of them, Rizal and Soriano, are bold in language that may often appear defiant and radical.

      For instance, a Catholic devotee may easily raise his eyebrows upon hearing Soriano for the first time bashing on the Catholic’s practice of idol worshiping that is abominable to God.

      Only if he continues to listen to Soriano’s arguments based purely on the Bible will he realize that it is but the truth.

  9. Capt. Smiley
    June 15, 2009 at 3:58 am | #27

    If Rizal were alive today, I think he would have very much liked to be in the presence of Bro. Soriano. They share not only a passion for science, but also and more importantly, a passion for freeing the truth – at all costs.

    Too bad Rizal isn’t here with us today. Aside from affirming Rizal’s words with Bible citations, Bro. Soriano would have also given Rizal a Bible-based lecture. On what – that would be another matter.

    I think they would have hit it off quite well.

  10. cabbage white
    June 15, 2009 at 12:23 pm | #28

    While it is true that Jose Rizal did a great job on his mission to fight against corruption and abuse in the Philippines during the Spanish era, Eli Soriano also succeeded on his mission to save souls and to free people from the bondage of religious ignorance and slavery from the claws of false preachers across religious denominations throughout the world.

    Indeed, Jose Rizal and Eli Soriano are heroes of yesterday and today. One died in the name of honor and integrity; the other one still lives and stands, with GOD’s protection and guidance, that no one has been successful in putting him down no matter how hard his enemies tried. Up to now, he continues to preach the word of GOD fearlessly without any reservations to win souls with GOD’s help at all cost — a noble act that only a true hero and a man of GOD can do.

  11. jerry
    June 15, 2009 at 10:53 pm | #29

    to : joyce esteban,

    “The thief who pays for a bull for composition can rest assured that he has been forgiven.
    Therefore, God wants to partake of stolen goods?
    Is it true that God is so needy that He imitates the carabineer or the civil guard?”

    If your thinking is like that you’re really a fool.

    Psalms 53:1, 2-3

    The fool says in his heart,
    “There is no God.”
    They are corrupt, and their ways are vile;
    there is no one who does good.
    Everyone has turned away,
    they have together become corrupt;
    there is no one who does good,
    not even one.
    Will the evildoers never learn—
    those who devour my people as men eat bread
    and who do not call on God?

    God doesnt need anything from human.

    Acts 17:24-25
    God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth,
    does not dwell in temples made with hands.

    Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything,
    since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.

    whether you turn back or follow Him, He is GoD Almighty.

    Isa 43:13

    Indeed before the day was, I am He;
    And there is no one who can deliver out of My hand;
    I work, and who will reverse it?”

    .

    • June 16, 2009 at 2:33 am | #30

      Jerry,

      What exactly is your argument?

      Are you arguing with Rizal or with Joyce?

    • Whit
      January 27, 2010 at 11:41 pm | #31

      Yeah jerry, whose words are you arguing? Joyce’s or Rizal’s?

  12. Phillip Garcia
    June 16, 2009 at 12:53 am | #32

    Jerry,

    You’re barking up the tree. READ CAREFULLY what Joyce wrote so that you won’t be saying “fool” to the wrong person.

    Those are words of Rizal. Joyce just quoted them.

  13. jerry
    June 17, 2009 at 3:45 am | #33

    To: joyce esteban, kotawinters, Philip Garcia

    my bad! many apologies.. I didn’t notice it was quoted.. there’s nothing to argue.

  14. June 17, 2009 at 8:01 pm | #34

    Dr. Jose Rizal was an opthalmologist. In fact, he did surgery in his mother’s eye at one time. I hope I remember my history well.

    Brother Eliseo Soriano is not a doctor of opthalmology, yet through him, I was able to see.

    In John 9:25 – Whether he be a sinner or no, I know not: one thing I know, that, whereas, I was blind, now I see.

    Similar in being able to help others to see, but a striking difference in many ways.

    Thanks be to God for his unspeakable gift.

    • January 28, 2010 at 6:24 am | #35

      @ Celine,

      I like to comparison. An opthalmologist that Rizal was, was able to make his mother see.

      Soriano, a preacher of God, was able to make the spiritually blind see.

      With his mouth and kind of fearless language.

    • Whit
      January 29, 2010 at 4:46 am | #36

      Celine,

      Good job for that comparison.

      Rizal did not only make his mother’s eyes to see, he also made the Filipinos in the 19th century see the injustice and cruelty of the Spanish regime through his writing.

      Bro. Eli on the other hand has done the same, he made everyone see spiritually.

      Both are instruments and symbols of “Freedom” in their own right.

  15. john
    June 20, 2009 at 4:37 am | #37

    Soriano & Rizal Are Beyond Comparison.

    Rizal Overthrew Both The Government & Religous Organization ..Destroyed Both The Spanish Regime & The Friar On Their Strangehold On The Pilipino People & Revolutionized The Thinking Of The Filipino Masses As A Whole.

    Soriano Concentrated More On The Religious Aspect’s Most Particularly On The Inc’s. We Must Refrain On Comparing The 2 As I Said , We Delve On Religion Against Principalities And The Prince Of The Power’s Of The Air.

    Soriano’s Adversary Is The Inc’s And Not The Philippine Government. Some People May Construe This And Misinterpret Vis A Vis Soriano Is Like Rizal.

    To Be Direct, Rizal Is A Revolutionary Par Excellance ! Lucifer’s Crime Is Rebellion Against The Almighty.

    • June 20, 2009 at 6:18 am | #38

      Soriano’s Adversary Is The Inc’s And Not The Philippine Government.

      john, this comment of yours shows how much you do not know Soriano.

      Sorry, pal.

      But you can try again.

  16. June 20, 2009 at 6:42 am | #39

    To Be Direct, Rizal Is A Revolutionary Par Excellence ! Lucifer’s Crime Is Rebellion Against The Almighty.

    john, I think I read you.

    But you failed to show where Bro. Soriano figures in this line.

    Rebellion Against The Almighty.

    This is the point where you can find Bro. Soriano as the faithful revolutionary when it comes to fight for truth. On this score, nobody can surpass him.

  17. john
    June 21, 2009 at 1:18 am | #40

    You Misread Me, Kotawinters

    Soriano Is Second To None.

    Just To Set The Record Straight, I Know Soriano Very Well More Than U Can Ever Imagine.

    I Have Only Respect, Admiration, And Gratitude For Him.

    I Just Merely Would Like To Extend To The Very Depth Of Your Mind That Soriano Is Soriano.

    He Has His own Pedestal, Accolade. And Comparing Him To Another Is Pointless!

    For There Will Alway’s Be A Better Or Lesser Person Than Ka Eli.

    Suffice It To Say, He Fights In God’s Name and Nobody Else’s.

    Now Here’s The Rub: Who’s The Real Puppeteer: The Inc Or The President Down The Rank ?

  18. Bible Believer Freelancer
    June 21, 2009 at 1:28 pm | #41

    Rizal and Bro. Soriano are both frank persons. (They say “ulol” if really that is the truth.)

    They both have Spanish blood and they read the Bible.

    They are both genius. Soriano as Biblical genius and Rizal is genius in languages, art, romance and many more.

    But the difference is, most Filipinos love Rizal. That is why he is Katipunan’s battlecry.

    But Bro. Soriano is hated by most people especially in the Philippines.

    Soriano is tall, Rizal is a small man.

    • June 21, 2009 at 1:51 pm | #42

      Freelancer, YOU SAID:

      But Bro. Soriano is hated by most people especially in the Philippines.

      WHY? Because most still like to keep their idols, prefer to live their ways of living in sin, and Soriano tells them to their face the facts that they must confront.

      It is hard to be a Christian in the real sense.

      • December 28, 2009 at 5:28 pm | #43

        @Parabanog or Padre Abe Arganiosa should read this,

        The Friars and the Filipinos

        http://joserizal.info/Writings/Other/friars_and_filipinos.htm

        by José Rizal

        NOTE: This unfinished manuscript of Rizal was not given a title. It is sometimes also entitled The Lord Gazes at the Philippine Islands or The Divine Wrath. It is quite possibly the early draft of a novel that never came to completion. Some notes in green brackets by Robert L. Yoder It can be found in an alternate English translation at the following URL:

        http://www.geocities.com/cavitesu/lord.htm

      • February 14, 2010 at 4:22 pm | #44

        @Kotawinters

        Heh, oh really? Soriano told the people to CONFRONT the facts? Why is it that he can’t confront/face his accusers in court and instead resorted into hiding? Seems like a classic example of a preacher who can’t practice what he preached.

  19. victor
    June 24, 2009 at 10:28 pm | #45

    Rizal, being a linguist, read the Bible in it’s Original tongue’s in Hebrew,Greek, Aramaic to equipped him in his fight against aristocracy particulary the Friar’s who held sway on the Spanish regime, and finally ended their despotic rule.

    Soriano is not hated by most Filipinos but rather admired by even most Inc members – of course in secret.

    His worst enemies are his detractors – the Inc Hierarchy – who very well hated his guts and who will move heaven & earth to demean & demolish him at all costs, by any mean’s necessary.

    Rizal opened a new era of Filipinos while Soriano started a Religious revolution.

    And he is scoring more & more & more..

  20. December 16, 2009 at 3:49 pm | #46

    Alam mo at alam ko, na gobyerno ng Espanya ang pumatay kay Rizal at hindi mga pari. At nakakalimutan mo ata na mga paring katoliko at hindi mga manggagawa ng Ang Dating Daan ang kasa-kasama at umaalalay kay Rizal nung martsa nya papuntang Bagumbayan bago sya barilin:

    “Mga 6:30 ng umaga, tumunog ang trumpeta sa Furza Santiago, udyat para simulan ang pagmartsa sa Bagumbayan, kung saan bibitayin si Rizal. Apat na sundalong may ripleng de-bayoneta ang nangunguna sa martsa. Nasa likuran nila si Rizal na payapang naglalakad, nasa gitna siya ng kanyang tagapagtanggol (Ten. Luis Taviel de Andrade) at DALAWANG HESWITANG PARI (Padre March at Padre Vilaclara).”

    Jose Rizal, Gregorio and Sonia Zaide, p.330

    Hanggang sa kamatayan, karamay ni Rizal yung mga paring heswita. Kaya wag nating gamitin si Rizal para atakihin ang Simbahang Katoliko. Tingnan ninyo ang buong buhay ni Rizal, nabuhay at namatay na katoliko. Hindi nagpaconvert sa ibang sekta.

    Sa katunayan, isa sa dahilan kung bakit di natuloy ang kasal ni Rizal kay Nellie Boustead ay sapagkat ayaw nyang magpaconvert sa Protestantism.

    “Dahil mabuting Protestante, nais talaga ni Nelly Boustead na maging Protestante si Rizal bago sila ikasal. Si Rizal na may matatag na paninindigan ay hindi sang-ayon dito. Oo nga’t naging Mason siya ngunit NANATILI PA RIN SIYANG TAPAT SA KATOLISISMO, ang relihiyon ng kanyang angkan.”

    Jose Rizal, Gregorio and Sonia Zaide, p. 226

    Ito ang ibig sabihin ni Rizal sa mga “bagay na nawala sa kanya sa di pag sang-ayon sa Protestantismo”. Makikita ito sa kanyang sulat kay Padre Pastells, Nov. 11, 1892:

    “As to my being a Protestant, Your Reverence would not say such a thing if you only knew what I lost for not declaring myself in agreement with Protestant tenets. had I not always respected religious ideas; had I regarded religion as a science of conveniences or an art of enjoying life; I would now be a rich and free man crowned with honors, instead of being a poor deportee. Rizal, a Protestant! Something in me moves me to laughter, but I am restrained by my respect for all that you say.”

    Isang katawa-tawang proposisyon ang maging protestante para kay Rizal. Kaya di po talaga uubra ang paggamit nyo kay Rizal para atakihin ang simbahan. Lumang tugtugin na po iyan. Napakalayo ng deperensya sa pagitan nila Jose Rizal at Soriano. Si Rizal hinarap ang mga akusasyon laban sa kanya sa tribunang militar. Si Soariano nagtatago.

    • December 28, 2009 at 2:11 pm | #47

      @ Parabanog

      Next time you post in Tagalog, it will be deleted. The Internet is not for Filipinos alone. The members of the Church of God International are global. They need to understand what is being talked about here.

      • December 28, 2009 at 5:31 pm | #48

        @Parabanog or Padre Abe Arganiosa should read this,

        The Friars and the Filipinos

        http://joserizal.info/Writings/Other/friars_and_filipinos.htm

        by José Rizal

        NOTE: This unfinished manuscript of Rizal was not given a title. It is sometimes also entitled The Lord Gazes at the Philippine Islands or The Divine Wrath. It is quite possibly the early draft of a novel that never came to completion. Some notes in green brackets by Robert L. Yoder It can be found in an alternate English translation at the following URL:

        http://www.geocities.com/cavitesu/lord.htm

        Below is a Filipino/Tagalog translation:

      • raffy777
        December 31, 2010 at 12:46 am | #49

        @parabanong…sino ba ang nasa gobyerno ng Espanya noon? di ba katoliko din…pointless argument…di maikakaila na ang INC ang iglesia ng demonyo…

    • December 28, 2009 at 5:07 pm | #50

      For those who had read this story in english, please give the title of the book or link. I read that the title of the book is Jose Rizal, Pahina Na Ukol Sa Kanya – Gunita ng Isang Manok, Pagdalaw ni Jesus sa Pilipinas, Sa Pamamagitan ng Telepono, at iba pang mga katha ng bayani ng bayan, mula sa Cavite State University.

      PAGDALAW NI JESUS SA PILIPINAS – Jose Rizal

      –Sa dahilang ang Inyong Maharlikang Kadiyusan ay hindi na nakikialam sa lupa… Kapag natutulog ang panginoo’y nagdiriwang at nagsasaya naman ang mga utusa’t magnanakaw!–ang sagot na may himig pagsisi ni Gabriel.–Ang buong daigdig ay nakaaalam na ang Alejandrong iyan ay isang tampalasang mapanlinlang, kaya’t siya’y sinumpa’t itinakwil ng lahat ng taong marangal, ng buong Europa’t Amerikang bihasa at ang ngalan niya’y naging singkahulugan ng mga salitang mahalay, mamamatay-tao,manlalason, mapagagawa ng salita, mapang-apid sa malalapit na kadugo…Bukod-tangi at diyan lamang sa mga pulong iyan dinarakila siya : diya’y itinalaga sa kanya ang isang buong lansangan na pinamagatan ng kanyang pangalan!

      –Totoo ba iyan? Nasisiraan na ba ng bait ang bansang iyan? Nguni’t magpatuloy ka: sinabi mong ang tampalasang iyon, sa pagmamalabis sa aking ngalan…

      –Ibinigay niya ang mga pulong iyan sa mga portuges!

      –Sa mga portuges? Nguni’t hindi mo ba sinasabing ang mga pulong iya’y nasa ilalim ng kapangyarihan ng mga kastila? Ano, kung gayon ang kinahinatnan ng aking ngalan at puri?

      –Iya’y isa pang …ibig kong sabihi’y magpapaliwanag ako: sa pagsasamantala sa pagpapabaya ng Inyong Maharlikang Kadiyusan ay hinati ni Alejandro VI sa mga kastila’t mga portuges ang buong lupa…

      –Nguni’t sino ang nagbigay sa kanya ng kapangyarihang makahati sa lupang hindi naman niya pag-aari?

      –Aba, ba! Napagkikilalang matagal nang panahong hindi nalalaman ng Inyong Maharlikang Kadiyusan ang nangyayari sa lupa; sapagka’t ni hindi nakapipigil sa mga papa ng pagsasaalang-alang sa mga bagay na iyan! Pati na ang langit ay naari nilang pakialaman, ang kaharian ng Inyong Maharlikang Kadiyusan at ampu ng Inyo na ring Maharlikang Kadiyusan.

      –Pinakikialaman nila ako, pinakikialaman ang langit, ano ang iyong sinasabi?–ang naibulalas ng Diyos Ama na napatindig.

      –Uy, uy!– ani Gabriel, at hindi lamang ang mga papa, na sa anu’t anoma’y nagpaphalaga at nag-aangkin ng kapitapitagang anyo, kundi pati ng kahuli-hulihang prayle, ang kahuli-hulihang unggoy, gaya ng sinasabi namin sa Maynila, ay nangangahas na mag-utos sa inyo, at kayo’y ginagawa nilang parang isang tagaganap ng mga nais nila. Uy, uy, uy!

      …–At ang mga tao, ano ang kanilang sinasabi kapag nakikita nilang napapalungi ang aking kabanal-banalang ngalan sa ganyang mga pagkakasundo?

      –Ano pa ang sasabihin nila, Walang Hanggang Ama, kundi alin sa dalawa: o walang Diyos, o kung kayo ma’y nabubuhay, sila’y inyong pinabayaan?

      Nagtakip ng mukha ang matandang Diyos, at pagkatapos, taglay ang kalungkutan sa mukha’y nagwika:

      –Tingnan natin, Gabriel: yamang ikaw ay nakarating na sa mga pulong yaon at tila nakikilala mong mabuti, ano ang inaakala mong nababagay gawin upang malunasan ang mga kasamaan doon?

      –Itinanong po ba ng Amang Walang Hanggan kung ano ang aking palagay?

      –Oo, anak ko, sapagka’t hanggang sa akin ay nakararating ang mga tinig at ninanais kong bigyan ng wakas ang gayon kalaking kasaliwaang-palad.

      –Kung ako, ay dudurugin ko ang lahat ng pulo… at si Gabriel ay nagpamalas ng isang anyong nagpapakilalang parang may dinudurog sa kanyang mga daliri.

      –Ganito, Amang Walang Hanggan, ganito, at ako’y gagawa ng mga bagong pulong may mga bagong naninirahan. Ganito, ganito nga!

      –Aba, aba,– anang matandang Diyos sa isang makaamang tinig,–napagkikilalang ikaw ay bata at hindi ka pa nahihirating makakita ng mga kadiyabluhan. Marahil ay masakit pa ang iyong loob dahil sa inalisan ka ng iyong templo at ng liwasan upang maibigay sa isang…ano ang tawag mo sa kanya?

      –Prayle!

      –Iyan nga, prayle! Anong pangalang napakakakatwa, hindi ko natatandaang lumikha ako ng ganyang bagay! Datapuwa’t hindi nararapat maging mapaghiganti; tularan mo ako. Alalahanin mong ako’y tinatawag na Diyos ng mga paghihiganti, gayong ako ay puno ng awa! Ako’y siyang nagkaloob sa kanila ng lahat, at ako’y wala roon kahit isang templo; binigyan ko ng kalayaan ang lahat, at ang aking ngala’y pinagmamalabisan upang sirain ang aking nilikha. At gayon man, ako’y hindi lamang hindi naghihiganti kundi nagnanasa pa rin ngayon na sila’y paligayahin.

      …–Mabuti po, kung gayon–isinagot ni Gabriel–kung ang Inyong Maharlikang Kadiyusan ay ayaw sumunod sa aking palagay, ay humingi Kayo sa ibang nag-aankin ng malaking kabantugan sa Pilipinas. Haya’t nagdaraan si San Andres, ang pintakasi ng Maynila, na ang kapistaha’y ipinagdiriwang taun-taon nang buong dingal at gara, may mga watawat, mga prusisyon, mga tambol, mga tagahatol, mga alguwasil mga nakabalatkayo, mga kabayong patpatin, at iba pang matatandang bagay-bagay!

      At ang arkanghel, matapos na makapagpugay, ay lumayo.

      –Hoy, Andres, ano ang nalalaman mo hinggil sa Pilipinas? –Ang tanong ng Diyos Ama sa isang matandang nagdaraan na may daladalang isang kurus nang umugong ang ngalan ng Pilipinas.

      –Hala, ano ang ipinapayo mo sa akin upang mailagay sa kaayusan ang Maynila?–ang dugtong ng Ama sa isangmatamis na tinig nang makitang si Andres ay nauumid.

      Napangiwi si San Andres nang marinig ang mga salitang kaayusan at Maynila at tinawagan ang lahat ng mga santo.

      –Hala, magsalita ka! Ano ang iyong ipinapayo?

      –Ako, Panginoon, ako, wala, talagang wala!–sa wakas ay nasabi ng Apostoles–wala akong pakialam sa bansang iyan, ayokong makitungo sa mga taong iyan, ako’y isang santong mahilig sa katahimikan at bahagya nang magsalita, isa pa’y hindi ako makauunawa ng mga kasulatan. Pabayaan nila ako sa kapayapaan, napakarami nang sama ng loob ang ibinigay nila sa akin!

      –Nguni’t, hindi ba ikaw ang pintakasi ng Maynila?

      –Hindi po, hindi…hindi…Ama…opo…Ama, ang ibig kong sabihi’y…opo…nguni’t hindi po…hindi…hindi…

      –Nguni’t, tao ka nga pala, magpaliwanag ka.

      Hinaplos ni San Andres ang kanyang batok, pinaypayan ang sarili ng laylayan ng kanyang balabal sa dahilang nararamdaman niyang siya’y nasa kagipitan gaya noong siya’y ipako sa kurus; at matapos makagawa ng isang pagpupumilit ay nakapagsabi rin sa wakas:

      –Tingnan ninyo Maharlikang Kadiyusan, ako’y walang kasalanan. Ang kasaysaya’y ito. Maraming taon pagkatapos na masakop ng mga kastila ang mga pulong iyon ay dumating doon ang ang maraming insik na nagtangka ring sumakop sa mga nasabing pulo. Doo’y naglabanan sila, nagpatayan at ako’y hindi nakialam sa anumang bagay; paano ko po ba magagawa iyon? Datapuwa’t ang mga nanalo, upang papagtibayin ang kanilang pananakop ay nagkunwang palitawing tumpak ang kanilang ginawa at ako’y isinangkot at iniukol sa aking panghihimasok ang kanilang pananalo; iligtas nawa ako ng Diyos! Dahil daw sa ang paglalaban ay nangyayari sa aking kaarawan, na para bang ako’y may kinalaman sa lahat ng bagay na ginagawa sa araw na iyon. Nguni’t ang lalong kakatwa sa pangyayari’y hindi ko naman kaarawan iyon, sapagka’t ang mga kastila, dahil sa naglakbay sila nang sunod sa takbo ng araw ay nagkamali tungkol sa araw ng talaarawan. Diya’y makikita ng Inyong Maharlikang Kadiyusan na ako’y talagang walang kasala-sala sa ginawa nilang pagkakapatungkol na iyon.

      –At kanino nauukol ang araw ng kanilang paglalabanan?

      –Ano po ang malay ko sa bagay na iyan, Walang Hanggang Ama?–ang sagot ni San Andres na nag-astang aalis na. Tila po sa isang nagngangalang Prokulo, o isang Evasio. Maraming santo ang nakalagay sa talaarawan, at sila ang siyang nararapat papanagutin!

      Ipinahanap nag mga santong binaggit, datapuwa’t hindi sila nakikilala ng mga anghel, at ang Amang Walang Hanggan, na hindi nauubusan ng pagtitiis, ay nagtanong:

      –Nguni’t tingnan nga natin, ano bang relihiyon ang sinusunod sa Pilipinas?

      Nagtinginan ang mga pinagpala, nagtanungan ang mga anghel sa pamamagitan ng kanilang tingin na walang iniwan sa mga batang nag-aaral na hindi nakaaalam ng takdang aralin, hanggang ang isang lalong malikot at pangahas kaysa iba, isang tunay na enfant terrible, ay sumagot:

      –Ang relihiyon kristiyano po!

      –Sino ang nagsabing ang aking relihiyon ay siyang umiiral sa mga pulong yaon?–ang tanong ng isang tinig lalaki, maliwanag at tumataginting,–sino ang nangangahas lumait sa aking relihiyon?

      At isang taong matangkad, may pormal at mapanglaw na pagmumukha, makisig ang tindig at kapita-pitagan ang lakad, aynapagitna sa mga lalong dakila sa mga nagtatag ng mga relihiyon. Ang anghel na matabil, na nanginginig ang buong katawan at nagugulumihanan, ay nagkubli sa likod ng kanyang mga kasama, na nag-ukol sa kanya ng ganitong pagsisi:

      –Aba, mabuti nga sa iyo!

      –Anong relihiyon, kung gayon, ang sinusunod sa Pilipinas–ang muling tanong ng Amang Walang Hanggan na nakatingin sa lahat:–samakatuwid ba’y walang relihiyon ang mga pulong iyon?

      Si Hesus ay nanatiling lalong mabagsik at lalo’t higit na mapanglaw; kaya’t bagaman marami ang nakatingin sa kanya, ay walang makapahangas magsalita. Sa wakas, isang lalong nakatatanda, may bikas insik, may bigote’t balbas na makapal, kulay kayumanggi at mga matang singkit, pagkatapos ng maraming pasikut-sikot na anyo at pagyukod, ay sumagot, sa isang tinig na mapagpahiwatig at malumanay:

      –Ang makatuwirang si Hesus ay nagsabi ng katotohanan; ang relihiyon niya’y hindi sinusunod sa Pilipinas, at halos mapapangahasan kong sabihing ang kanyang aral ay hindi nakikilala roon. Nguni’t ipahintulot sa kanyang di-karapat-dapat na alagad na si Kungsten na sabihin sa kanyang bagama’t totoong ang mga kautusan niyang maka-Diyos ay hindi umiiral doon, sa kabilang dako nama’y pinagmamalabisan ang ngalan niya, at sa ngalan niya’y ginagawa ang mga pagkakasala’t mga kasamaang hindi pa naririnig . Ito’y nalalaman ko sa dahilang ang bansa ko’y malapit sa Pilipinas, at maraming nagsisisamba sa mga anito sa amin ang nagki-kristiyano doon dahil sa mga hangaring humigit-kumulang ay kasumpa-sumpa, humigit-kumulang ay mahalay!

      Ang mga pangungusap ni Kungsten ay nag-aangkin ng malaking bigat sa mga kapulungan sa langit, kaya’t si Hesus ay walang pagkagalit na sumagot ng ganito:

      –Sumasang-ayon ako kay Kungsten, nguni’t hindi ako maaaring panagutin sa mga pagmamalabis na ginawa sa aking ngalan ng ilang mapagkunwari, lahi ng mga ahas, mga ulupong, mga libingang pinintahan ng puti. Kung ang ngalan ng Ama’y pinagmamalabisan, ano ang hindi gagawin sa aking ngalan? Ang aral ko’y nasusulat, at bagama’t binago ay naroro’t nagniningning, tumututol. Pinagmamalabisan ang aking ngalan sa dahilang ang mga tao’y nakalimot na sa akin, sa dahilang hindi nila nagugunitang akong nangaral ng pag-ibig at pagmamahalan, ay hindi ko maamin ang anumang paghahari-harian, ang anumang pang-aapi. Tinuruan ko silang mangatwiran, sumuri, magsiyasat, bakit ipinipikit nila ang kanilang mga mata? Ano ang kasalanan ko kung may mga bulag at hangal sa lupa? Sa anong kalagayang katawa-tawa ibig nila akong pababain kapag sa paglimot nila sa aking aral, sa pinagbabatayang kagandahang asal ng aking gawa sa pinakadiwa ng aking pangangaral, sila’y nagpapatirapa ngayon sa pagsamba sa mga bahagi lamang at loob ng aking katawan? Itinakwil ko ang lahing iyan ng mga mapagkunwari at matagal na sanang panahong ako’y tumutol kung hindi ko lamang nababatid na sa pagkakagulo’y masasangkot ang aking ina.

      –Ipagpaumanhin mo, anak; –ang salo ng isang mabait na babaing may pagmumukhang kaakit-akit at tinging maawain–ang aking ngalan ay pinagmalabisan nila nang higit ng pagmamalabis nila sa iyo, at kung ako’y hindi tumututol ay upang huwag kang bigyan ng sama ng loob. Tingnan mo, doo’y kinakalakal ako, ang aking pag-ibig, ang aking damdamin; ang aking ngalan ay kinakasangkapan upang kunin ang kahuli-hulihang kuwalta ng dukha, upang upanganyaya nga mga babaing may asawa, upang ilugso ang puri ng mga dalaga, upang ilugmok ang buu-buong angkan sa kamangmangan at sa kaabaan. Ako’y inilalarawan kung minsang maitim, kung minsa’y kayumanggi, at kung minsan pa’y maputi. Akong lagi nang nabuhay sa aking paggawa at kailanma’y hindi nanghingi ng limos kaninuman, ngayo’y kailangang maglakbay sa bayan-bayan, sa bahay-bahay, at nagpapalimos upang sandatin sa ginto ang mga nabubuhay sa mga kasayahan at kasaganaan; ako’y ginagawang panakip o sangkalan ng mga gawang nakaririmarim at ng mga paliligawan, tagapagtinda ng mga rosaryo, kalmen at sintas, at kung maisipan nilang ako’y bihisang mabuti, ang hangad nila’y makapagkamal ng lalong maraming salapi gaya ng ginagawa nila sa isang mananayaw sa sirko. At hindi pa yata sila nasisiyahan sa mga ito, ay ipinakikilala nilang ako’y may mga pangangailangan at may mga kahinaan, ako’y ipinalalagay na mapaghiganti, masakim, matigas ang puso, at maminsan-minsa’y ipinakikipagkagalit nila ako, ipinakikipagbalitaktakan at ginagawang kaaway ng akin na ring sarili; ako’y pinaliligo, pinasasayaw, binibihisan ng mga kakatuwang damit at ginagawa sa akin ang lahat ng uri ng kalapastangana’t kadiyabluhan. Ngayong nalalaman mo na, isinasamo ko sa iyo, anak ko, na ako’y alisin mo sa mga pulong yaon sapagka’t hindi ko nakayang bathin pa ang mga iyon. Iwan mo roon ang mga santo, at bahala na silang makipagkasundo sa kanila, nariyan sina Agustin, Domingo, Ignacio…

      …–Bakit pinabayaang makapasok ang ganyang mga nilikha sa aking kaharian nang hindi muna nalilinis? Ano ang ginagawa ni Pedro–anang Amang Walang Hanggang nagpamalas ng mga tanda ng matinding pagkayamot.

      Iniharap ni San Juan ang isang matandang lalaking nagpauna nang buong kakisigan.

      –Ito po’y isa sa mga ibong lalong matataba sa Pilipinas–ani San Juan–sa buong buhay niya’y naging prayle…

      –Aha! Ito pala’y isang prayle!–ang ibinulalas ng Amang Walang Hanggan, na tumingin na may pananabik sa matanda–tingnan nga natin kung paano magpaliwanag ang prayle. Hala, magsalita kayo.

      –Kung gayon, Panginoon, dito, na inyong kinakikitaan sa akin– anang matanda–ako’y isang kababalaghan; pinaunlad ko ang bansa sa pagsisikap na makuha ko ang lahat ng salaping makukuha ko. Pinabahaan ko ang lupa ng mga “pastoral” na hindi binasa; umawit ako ng mga “Te Deum”, awit ng pasasalamat, sa paniniwalang natapos na ang mga lindol ay nagsimula uli; binatbat ko ng mg indulhensiya ang mga hangal na aklat upang ang mga ito’y maging lalong kagalang-galang, at ang baya’y lalo pang tumawa; nagpagawa ako ng mga sasakyang pandigma sa pamamagitan ng salapi ng bayan upang maipagsanggalang ang bansa laban sa mga di-binyagan at ang mga sasakyang pandigmang ito’y nasamsam ng mga di-binyagan at ang salapi’y hindi na nakita ninuman. Sa wakas ay pinaligaya ko ang Pilipinas, pinatawa ko siya, pinatawa’t pinatawa at hanggang ngayo’y tumatawa pa marahil.

      –Kung gayo’y hindi tunay ang karalitaang nakikita ko…

      –Ano bang tunay!, hindi, Panginoon, doo’y walang karalitaan!

      Noong ako’y mamatay ay nakapag-iwan ako sa bawa’t tagapagmana: dalawa o tatlo sa bawa’t bayang kinaroonan ko! Karalitaan aba, wala po niyan, Panginoon. Itanong ng Inyong Maharlikang Kadiyusan sa lahat ng mga prayleng ito; nakikita ba ninyo kung gaano sila katataba at kapupula? Mangyari’y kararating lamang nila buhat sa Pilipinas; nakita na ng Inyong Maharlikang Kadiyusan na ang lahat doon ay kasaganaan!

      –Humayo kayo!umalis kayo sa aking harap!–ang sigaw ng Amang Walang Hanggan nang mamalas ang gayon kalaking kawalang-hiyaa’t kahangalan; umalis kayo, at baka pumutok ang aking galit at papagbalikin ko kayo sa lupa at gawing mga hayop na karumal-dumal!

      Nagsiyaong nalilito ang mga pilipino; ang ilan ay malabis na nagdamdam, sa dahilang sa kanila’y may makapagsasaysay ng ilang bagay na matino at may kabuluhan tungkol sa Pilipinas. Datapuwa’t sila’y nasa dakong huli ay walang sinumang nakapag-akalang sila’y naroroon!

      Pagkaraan ng ilang saglit na pagwawari-wari, ang Amang Walang Hanggan ay nagsalita, sa mabalasik na tinig, kay Hesus:

      –Yamang sa iyong ngalan ay ginagawa roon sa lupa ang kapuot-poot na kawalang matuwid ay kinakailangang manaog ka, pag-aralan mo ang kasamaan at ipagbigay-alam mo sa akin kung ano ang nangyayari upang malunasan ko.

      –Makikipiling akong muli sa mga pariseo?–ang tanong ni Hesus na namutla.

      –Oo sa piling nila uli! Kung iniwan mo sanang nakasulat ang mga batas at mga pangungusap mo, kung ikaw sana’y nagpahayag nang lalong maliwanag at tandisan, disi’y hindi ka dinaya ng iyong mga mananalaysay, hindi sana binago ang kahulugan ng iyong mga aral at hindi sana pinagmalabisan ang iyong kapangyarihan! Gaanong mga pagtatalo, gaanong mga pagkakaalitan, gaanong mga digmaan at mga pag-uusig ang sana’y natipid mo sa sangkatauhan at kay bilis sana ng kanyang pagkakaunlad!

      Iniyuko ni Hesus ang ulo at nagbulalas ng isang buntung-hininga.

      –Nguni’t wala kang dapat ikatakot–ang may katamisang dugtong ng Amang Walang Hanggan:–ngayon ay lalayo sa iyo ang kalis ng pasakit, sapagka’t sa dahilang lalo kang magiging maingat ngayon sa pagkagunita sa nakaraan, ay sisikapin mong dumaan nang hindi napapansin at iiwasan mo hanggang maaari ang pagkakalapit sa mga pariseo at eskribas. Hindi na kakailanganing ipanganak ka ng isang inang birhen , bagay na maahirap mangyari doon, sapagka’t ayon sa sabi’y isang kasalanan daw ang magkait ng tungkulin sa asawa…Hindi na rin kailangang pugutan ng ulo ang labing-apat na libo, bagkus nararapat dumating ka roon nang buo na ang pagkatao, may gulang na at ganap nang tao, sapagka’t kung ikaw ay ipanganganak doon at doon ka mag-aaral ay lalaki kang mangmang, magiging timawa at mahihirapan ako nang gayon na lamang upang ikaw ay mapatino. Buong ingat na iwasan mo ang pakikipagtalo sa mga pantas sa kanilang batas, sa dahilang walang salang hindi ka nila pahihintulutang makaalis nang buhay, at ikaw ay tatawaging pilibustero; iadya ka nawa ng Diyos sa pagpapaalis sa templo sa mga nagtitinda’t mga mangangalakal, sapagka’t ikawa ay isusuplong at isasakdal, at higit sa lahat ay magpakaingat kang huwag tumawag ng ahas at lahi ng mga ulupong sa libu-libong pariseong matatagpuan mo roon. Hayo na, pumanaog ka na nga,–alang-alang sa pag-ibig sa sangkatauhan, alang-alang sa kabunyian ng iyong ngalan, at upang huwag makasama sa mga tao ang pagpapakahirap na tiniis mo, maging matiisin ka, maging mabait ka, maging mapagmatyag ka!

      At ang Walang Hanggang ay bumaling kay San Pedro, na kararating lamang, at nagsabi sa kanya:

      –At ikaw, sa dahilang pinabayaan mong makapasok sa kaharian ko ang napakaraming mga tulala at walng kaluluwa na nangangailangan muna ng mga dantaon ng paglilinis at pagdurusa dahil sa kasalanan, sa dahilang naging pabaya ka sa pagbabantay sa pintuan, ikaw ay babalik sa lupa.

      Napasigaw si San Pedro at nanikluhod.

      –Nguni’t Panginoon, ako po’y abalang-abala sa pagtatala ng mga indulhensiya!–anyang pinagdaop ang mga palad.

      –Babalik ka sa lupa at sasamahan mo si Hesus sa kanyang pangingibang bayan –ang patuloy na nagmamatigas ng Walang Hanggan. –Pinahintulutan mong mag-iwan ng iyong mga kahalili sa lupa, na nangagpapanggap na mga kahalili ni Hesus; kaya nararapat, kung gayon, na ikaw ay paroong kasama niya sapagka’t sa ngalan ninyo’y ginagawa roon ang lahat ng pagmamalabis!

      Walang nagawa ang dalawa maliban sa itungo ang ulo at pagkatapos na matanggap ang bendisyong maka-ama, ay malungkot na nagsilayo….

      …Si San Pedro, na nababalisa sa hawig na tinutungo ng mga pasiya ng kanyang guro, ay nasisindak sa pagpasok sa Pilipinas, kaya’t sinamantala ang pagkakataong dumaraan sila sa isang pulong hindi nauukol sa kapuluan, at nagsabi kay Hesus:

      –Guro, tila nararapat tumigil muna tayo sa pulong ito upang makapaghanda at tumalaga sa mapanganib na paglalakbay na ito. Kinakailangang malaman muna natin ang kalagayan ng labangang iyan, at gaya nang kayo’y mag-ayuno ng apatnapung araw at apatnapung gabi bago makiharap sa mga hudiyo, ay magparaan muna tayo rito ng tatlong buwan sa dahilang para sa mga pilipino, ang lahat ng pag-iingat ay kakaunti.

      Binalak ni San Pedrong libangin ang kanyang guro o maipagpaliban man lamang kaya ang pagpasok sa Pilipinas. Si Hesus, na ang buong pinagkakaabalaha’y ang kanyang pagninilay-nilay ay nagpabayang siya’y akayin ni San Pedro, na nagsamantala sa pagkakatong ito upang dalhin ang kanyang guro sa nasabing pulo at sila’y bumaba sa isang ilang na pook na di-lubhang malayo sa kabayanan. Gumuguhit na ang bukang liwayway at ang mga bagay-bagay ay nagsisimula nang mapagmalas-malas, mapuputi, parisukat na maraming durungawang parang mga bahay-kalapating pinagbai-baitang sa paa ng bundok na siyang bumubuo ng pulo.

      Yamang kinakailangang hubdin nila ang mga kautusang makalangit para sa paglalakbay na isasagawa, ginamit ni Hesus ang kanyang talino, upang ang kanyang balabal ay magawang isang ternong matingkad na bughaw, na may wastong tabas bagama’t di naman sunod sa mga kautusan ng moda. Inahit ang kanyang balbas, pinutol ang buhok na mahaba, at upang magkaroon ng lalong pagkahawig pilipino, ay inihukot ng bahagya ang katawan na parang isang taong nahirati na sa pagsunod at pamanginoon. Kung siya’y makikita sa gayong pagbabagong anyo ay masisinungalingan, kahit na ang di-pagkakamali ng papa, at ang pinakamabuting maaakala sa kanya’y isang pilipinong buhat sa isang mabuting angkan na naglalakbay upang magliwaliw.

      Sa ganang kanya naman, inakala ni San Pedro na sa dahilang narinig niya sa langit na ang mga insik ay siyang lalong mabuti ang kabuhayan sa Pilipinas, ay inakala niyang lalong mabuti at kapaki-pakinabang na siya’y tumulad sa insik, at gayon nga ang hiniling niya sa Guro; nguni’t naging napakasaliwa ang kanyang palad, sa dahilang siya’y upaw at mangilan-ngilan lamang ang natitirang buhok na hindi matitirintas, kaya’t siya’y nagmukhang insik na panot. Nag-iwan ng ilang buhok upang gawing bigote; ang kanyang balabal ay ginawang salawal na maluwang at ang kanyang balabal ay ginawang barong insik; sa ganito, ang asta niya’y naging lubhang kakatuwa, na kung di sa malabis na kapormalan ni Hesus ay napahalakhak na sana.

      Pumasok sila sa lungsod na nagsisimula nang sumigla. Ang mga bagay ay nagigising na at ang mga lansangan ay napupuno na ng mga utusan, manggagawa, mamamangka, mandaragat na ang karamiha’y mga insik. Nabatid ni San Pedro, na dahil sa kanyang kasuutan at tinirintas ay nagkaroon ng biyayang makapagsalita ng insik, na sila’y nasa isang daungang insik na tinatawag na Biktoria dahil sa ito’y pinamamahalaan ng mga kampon ng reyna ng Inglatera.

      –Masama ang ating binabaan–ani San Pedro–tayo’y nasa bansa ng mga insik, at bukod dito’y pinamamahalaan ng mga protestante.

      At idinugtong pa sa kanyang sarili–Iniwasan namin ang ulan at kami’y lumagpak sa dagat….

      …At si San Pedro na lubhang nahahapis at nababalisa hinggil sa kanyang kapalaran, ay lumalakad na sa kanyang loob ay tinutungayaw ang kanyang naisipang pagpanaog sa pulong yaon. Ang Pilipinas, bansa ng mga kristiyano, ay nakikilala na niya, at kahit na maging masama ay lalong mabuti na ito kaysa mabuting kikilalanin pa.

      Si Hesus, na lumilingap-lingap sa lahat ng dako na parang may hinahanap, ay nakapansin ng ilang malalaking gusaling magkakawangis, iisang anyo ang pagkakayari, at inakala niyang ang mga yao’y mga pagamutan marahilo kaya’y isang gusaling bayan sa pagkakawang-gawa, datapuwa’t sinabi ni San Pedro, na may masamang pagkakakilala sa mga ingles at insik, na marahil ay mga kuwartel iyon; inakala niyang hindi mangyayaring makagawa ng ibang bagay ang mga taong iyong walang pananampalataya. At upang malutas ang kanyang pag-aalinlangan, ay lumapit sila sa isang binata, na mukhang mestiso, at nagtanong:

      –Sa mga paleng dominiko!–ang tugon ng binata.

      –Sa mga paring dominiko!–ang namamanghang ulit ni San Pedro–Guro, ang mga bahay na ito’y pag-aari ng mga anak ni Domingo.

      Nakatungangang pinanood nilang dalawaang gayon karaming mga bahay, at namangha sila sa kainaman ng mga ito.

      –Si Domingo, na nagpapaniwala sa ating ang mga anak niya’y may panata ng pagpapakarukha!–ang ulit ni San Pedro.

      –Huwag kang magtaka, Pedro– ani Hesus–Kung ako’y hindi nagkakamali, sila’y may mga misyon sa Tsina; marahil ang gawai’y napakalaki at kinakailangang tumira rito ang libu-libong misyonero upang mapapaging Kristiyano ang mga tagarito.

      Nagpatuloy sila ng paglakad, at nakita nila ang isa pang mahabang hanay ng mga bahay, na hindi man malalaki, ay mabuti naman ang pagkakayari.

      –Walang salang ang mga ito’y siyang mga kuwartel–ang sabi sa sarili ni San Pedro, at nagtanong sa isang tao kung ang mga bahay na yao’y mga kuwartel nga.

      –Sa mga paleng dominiko! –ang tugon ng pinagtanungan.

      –Aba!–ang bulalas ni San Pedro–at yaong mga natatanaw ko sa dako roon, na ang kulay ay puti’t pula?

      –Sa mga pali lin! Lahat-lahat ito sa pali — ang isinagot ng taong nagkukumpas at itinuturo ang maraming lansangan. –Mga pali malaming bahay lito sa laang ito, sa laang yan at sa iba pang laang.

      –Aha! Aha! Kung gayo’y maraming dominiko rito.

      –Hini, dalawa lang.

      –Dalawa lamang? At sinu-sino ang tumitira sa mga bahay na iyan?

      –Mga insik.

      –Ang mga insik?, mga kristiyano sila, hindi ba?

      –Hini!

      –Paano? ang mga insik na hindi binyagan ay nakatira sa mga bahay na ipinatayo ng mga katolikong dominiko?

      –Oo, insik mayad-mayad mabuti sa mga paling dominiko, malaming pela at malaming milyon sa mga bangko at aksiyong…

      –At paano silang naging napakayaman? Masipag ba sila sa paggawa, nagbubungkal ba sila ng bukid? Sila ba’y nag-aabala sa industriya?

      –Hini!

      –At saan sila kumuha ng napakaraming salapi upang makapagpatayo ng napakaraming bahay?

      –Sa Pilipinas. Migay-migay sa kanila ang mga indiyo ng malaming salapi!

      –Kung gayo’y ang mga indiyo sa Pilipinas ay napakayayaman?

      –Hini, totoo pulubi! Tila sila sa maliit na kubo.

      –Pulubi, kung gayo’y hindi ko nauunawaan! At ang mga Dominiko’y nagpapatayo ng mga bahay para sa mga insik na hindi binyagan sa pamamagitan ng salapi ng Pilipinas, samantalang sa Pilipinas ang mga kristiyano’y nakatira sa mga abang kubo.

      –Oo.

      Lumapit si San Pedro sakanyang Guro upang ipagbigay alam ang kanyang mga pag-aalinlangan, nguni’t ito’y nakita niyang nagninilay-nilay nang napakalalim.

      Natatanaw ni Hesus, buhat sa pook na kanyang kinaroroonan ang patyo ng isang malaking gusaling nasa malayo. Doo’y maraming taong nakabihis nang magkakaparis at ang kanilang ginagawa’y angatin at ilagpak sa lupa ang ilang bolang tila may kabigatan. Mayroong isang wari’y namamatnugot sa gayong gawain.

      –Yao’y isang bilangguan–ang wika sa ingles ng isang taong pinagtanungan ni Hesus.–Doon dinadala ang mga naparusahan, ang mga magnanakaw, mga manghuhuwad, mga mandarahas, mga mamamatay tao. Yaong nakita ninyo’y isa sa mga gawaing ipinarusa sa kanila; may ilan pang ibang gawain, gaya ng gawin ang himaymay ng abaka, paikutin ang isang gulong, at iba pa.

      –At ang mga sawimpalad na iyo’y mga di-binyagan bang lahat?

      –Hindi, sa kanila’y may mga kristiyano, mayroon ding mga ingles, sapagka’t dito’y walang pagtatangi-tanging ginagawa sa mga salarin: doo’y may mga taong nagsipaghawak ng matataas na tungkulin sa mga bayang sakop natin.

      –At ang inyong karangalan–ang tanong ni San Pedro–hindi ba kayo marunong mag-ingat ng inyong karangalan, gaya ng mga kastila sa Pilipinas?

      –Ang aming karangalan ay wala sa aming pagmumukha kundi nasa aming tuntunin ng mabuting-asal–ang itinugon ng insikna hindi man lamang minarapat na tumingin kay San Pedrong nakabihis insik.

      Sumang-ayon si San Pedro na sa anu’t anuma’y maaaring magkaroon ng katuwiran ang ingles sa lalong pagpapahalaga sa karangalang nababatay sa kabutihang-asal kaysa sa kabunyiang nababatay sa lahi, daatapuwa’t sinabi niyang lubhang ipinagmamayabang at lubhang ipinangangalandakan ng ingles ang kanyang pamamaraan, at nararapat na iyo’y makilala nang lalong mabuti ng mga pilipino sa dahilang, una, ang mga ito’y mga katoliko at ikalawa, dahilang doo’y nagtatamasa siya ng sapat na kabunyian.

      Nagpatuloy sila sa kanilang paglalakad at pagmamatyag at napansin ni San Pedro, sa malaki niyang pagtataka, na bagama’t sila’y nasa bansa ng mga di-binyagan, ay maaaring makapaglakad nang walang panganib; walang mga karwaheng sumasagasa sa mga naglalakad; ang mga ingles ay hindi namamaslang sa mga insik; ang mga pulis ay hindi nagnanakaw sa mga maralita ni gumagambala sa mga ito, at kung may sinumang pagkayaman-yaman at pinagpipitaganan , na nagmalabis sa isang aba, siya’y dinadala sa isang hukuman, doo’y hinahatulan sa loob ng ilang sandali’t walang maraming kasulatan, at hindi pinagugugol ang nagsusumbong, hindi siya pinagyayao’t dito sa iba’t ibang tanggapan, hindi pinag-aaksaya ng panahon upang ang kalabasan ay bukod pa sa paluin ay maging biktima pa ng kung mga anu-anong takda ng pangasiwaan. Kaya’t si San Pedro, na tinatakasan na ng kanyang pangamba, ay sumasang-ayon na sa pamamahala sa pulong iyon, at nagnanasang manirahan nang patuluyan doon kaysa paroon sa Pilipinas, at dahil dito’y maamo niyang iminungkahi kay Hesus na Panginoon natin.

      –Guro, hindi ba lalong mabuting tayo’y manuluyan sa isang bahay dito upang kayo’y makapagparaan ng apatnapung araw na pag-aayuno?

      –Bakit mag-aayuno?–ang itinugon ni Hesus na nakahula sa binabalak ni Pedro. –Kinakailangan ko ang lahat ng lakas ng aking katawan at kaluluwa, kinakailangan kong ang aking buong pagkatao’y mag-angkin ng ganap na kaayusan upang makipagbaka sa kahirapan ng ating layunin…Bakit mag-aayuno? Ang aking katawan, na ipinaglihi n g walang bahid na kasalanan, ay hindi kaaway ng aking kaluluwa upang siya’y aking panlupaypayin.

      Naunawaan ni San Pedro ang pagkamatuwiran ng tugon.

      –Gayon pa man, Guro–ang pakli niya–hindi kalabisan na tayo’y tumigil muna dito upang mapag-aralan ang kalagayan ng bansang dadalawin natin. Maaari tayong makituloy sa mga dominiko, na marami ang bahay, sapagka’t ayon sa aking nakikita, ang parang dito’y hindi maaaring tirhan.

      Sumang-ayon si Hesus sa panukala ni San Pedro, at matapos na maipagtanong kung saan nakatira ang mga dominiko, ay tumungo sila roon.

      –Marikit na gusali!–ang bulalas ni San Pedro, nang makita niya ang kumbento o palasyong ginagamit na pinakatanggapan ng dalawang prayle–Natitiyak ko, Guro, na tayo’y patutuluyin dito nang walang bayad, at tayo’y pakikitunguhan na parang mga kapatid.

      Sa kasawiampalad ay dumating sila sa isang napakasamang pagkakataon. Ang prayleng prokurador ay natalo nang araw na iyon ng isang pilipino sa isang usaping ang naging sanhi’y isang maliit na suliranin tungkol sa sahod na ayaw bayaran ng dominiko; inakala nito na mapapanaig ang kanyang nais kung kakasangkapanin niya ang kayamanan ng kanyang orden, at ang usapi’y nakarating sa matataas na huhuman ng bansa bagay na nagbigay ng malaking alingasngas. Datapuwa’t hindi natakot ang mga hukom na ingles, at naggawad sila ng katarungan; at ang dakilang prayle’y hinatulang magbayad ng utang niya, ayon sa batas at sa karapatan….

      …Inakala ng opisyal na siya’y binibiru-biro ni Hesus at sa dahilang wala siyang mahagilap na matuwid upang ilaban sa mga tanong, siya’y nagalit at tinawag si Hesus na mapagbago at kaaway ng kastila. Bilang pinakabunga nito, ay iniutos niyang si Hesus ay kapkapang mabuti ng dalawang kawal.

      Kinapkapan ang lahat ng mga bulsa ni Hesus at nakuha nila ang aklat ng mga alaala na sinulat ni Hesus upang ihandog sa Amang Walang Hanggan. Nang mabasa ng opisyal ang mga puna ni Hesus tungkol sa kuwarentenas, nagliwanag ang kanyang pagmumukha sa isang ngiting makaimpiyerno!

      –Aha! Naaamoy ko na nga bang ikaw ay pilibustero! Ang sigaw niya na humarap kay Hesus.– A! walang hiya! A, Pilibustero. Tinutuligsa mo ang mga bagay-bagay na nakatatag, pinahihintulutan mo ang iyong sariling sumulat ng mga puna, inaakala mong dapat pintasan at kakatwa ang ginagawa doon, at pinupulaan mo ang kuwarentenas. Dalhin siya sa bilangguan aat ngayon di’y isakdal siya.

      Si San Pedro, nang makita niyang sumasama ang lakad ng mga bagay-bagay, ay nagsamantala sa kaguluhan at nagsimulang lumayo nang unti-unti; at nang marinig niyang panganlang pilibustero ang kanyang guro, ay nahulog na muli sa masama niyang kaugalian, lumabas sa kuwartel at tumakas nang buong bilis. Sa kasamaang palad, noon ay katanghaliang tapat at wala ni isa mang tandang na tumilaok. Mayroon siyang malabong kaalaman tungkol sa tawag na pilibustero na narinig niya sa isang tao sa langit, at sa di pag-aalaala sa anuman at walng sumasaisip kundi ang panganib, ay nilisan at pinabayaan ang kanyang guro.

      • December 28, 2009 at 5:11 pm | #51

        National Library of the Philippines Online Public Access Catalog

        740 -ADDED ENTRY–UNCONTROLLED RELATED/ANALYTICAL TITLE

        a Uncontrolled related/analytical title

        Isang pagdalaw ni Hesus sa Pilipinas.

      • December 29, 2009 at 2:59 am | #52

        A translation will be needed here. Please expect it soonest.

      • February 13, 2010 at 4:14 am | #53

        @elmantheman

        We printed your post and it came out in 11 pages, single space. What exactly did you want to point out?

        You see, posts like this tend to distract and even diverse from the topic.

        We looked for translators and they were wearied from the sheer length of it.

        Please go straight to the point. Process the reading and summarize the thoughts you wanted to highlight.

        How can we argue like this?

    • Whit
      January 28, 2010 at 7:00 pm | #54

      Parabanog,

      I am not good in any country’s history nor I am good in the life story of Rizal. Firstly, because I am not a Historian by profession and secondly history is the least of my favorite subjects.

      For your information Parabanog (what a name!) Answers.com – WikiAnswers has info on Rizal’s Religious Philosophy let me extract an excerpt from this link: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Rizal%27s_philosophy_in_life (answer to the question of Rizal’s
      philosophy in life?)

      “Religious Philosophy

      Rizal grew up nurtured by a closely-knit Catholic family, was educated in the foremost Catholic schools of the period in the elementary, secondary and college levels; logically, therefore, he should have been a propagator of strictly Catholic traditions. However, in later life, he developed a life philosophy of a different nature, a philosophy of a different Catholic practice intermingled with the use of Truth and Reason.

      Why the change?

      It could have been the result of contemporary contact, companionship, observation, research and the possession of an independent spirit. Being a critical observer, a profound thinker and a zealous reformer, Rizal did not agree with the prevailing Christian propagation of the Faith by fire and sword. This is shown in his Annotation of Morga’s Sucesos de las Islas Filipinas.

      Rizal did not believe in the Catholic dogma that salvation was only for Catholics and that outside Christianity, salvation was not possible even if Catholics composed only a small minority of the world’s religious groups. Nor did he believe in the Catholic observation of fasting as a sacrifice, nor in the sale of such religious items as the cross, medals, rosaries and the like in order to propagate the Faith and raise church funds. He also lambasted the superstitious beliefs propagated by the priests in the church and in the schools. All of these and a lot more are evidences of Rizal’s religious philosophy.”

      You were wrong when you concluded “Hanggang sa kamatayan, karamay ni Rizal yung mga paring heswita” (until death the Jesuits helped Rizal) to back up the writings of Gregorio and Sonia Zaide.

      I am not disclaiming the writings of Gregorio and Sonia Zaide I am just going to expound more on the reason why the Jesuits were there marching with Rizal on his last day. The two Jesuits were there to fulfill their service to the Roman Church. What kind of service you may ask, Jesuits were to encourage Rizal to return to the fold. History will attest that from the day Rizal was brought to Dapitan in the province of Zamboanga a peninsula of Mindanao in July 1892, “the Jesuits mounted a great effort to secure his return to the fold led by Fray Sanchez who failed in his mission. The task was resumed by Fray Pastells” please refer to this book “The Rizal-Pastells Correspondence” (Manila: Ateneo de Manila University Press, 1996) authored by Raul J. Bonoan, S.J.

      EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Governor-General Eulogio Despujol issues a decree dated 7 July 1892 banishing José Rizal to Dapitan, Zamboanga. It contains Despujol’s reasons for issuing the
      decree, which includes Rizal’s publication of various books and proclamations that introduces ANTI-CATHOLIC or ANTI-MONASTIC views. The decree also prohibits the introduction and circulation of all the works of Rizal in the Philippines. //www.filipiniana.net/ArtifactView.do?artifactID=R2009LMC0093)
      therefore, you are wrong again on claiming that Rizal remain faithful to Catholicism.

      Records will show that Jose Rizal’s writings specially his novel, “El Filibusterismo” sparked so much fury to the Roman Church. According to “Nationalista Party History”, Rizal dedicated the said novel to the 3 Filipino martyr priests who were executed at Bagumbayan on Feb. 17, 1872. In memory of the three Filipino priests; Mariano Gómez, José Apolonio Burgos, and Jacinto Zamora.

      The Catholic Church influenced Rizal’s execution according to them, Rizal was an inciter of revolution. During his trial before a court-martial for rebellion, sedition, and conspiracy the Catholic Church wanted Rizal to retract from his anti-Catholic writings which they failed this led to his conviction of rebellion, sedition, and conspiracy and was sentenced to death on Dec. 30, 1896.

      I agree with what Victor said that “Rizal, being a linguist, read the Bible in it’s Original tongues in Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic to equipped him in his fight against aristocracy particulary the Friar’s who held sway on the Spanish regime…” as a man of intelligence Rizal, surely read different translations of the bible (you will see proofs in his letters to Pastells, he mentioned there that his favored translation was in Latin) to back up his fight against the Friars.

      That is the reason why he wrote to Priest Pastells in Nov. 11, 1892 “As to my being a Protestant, Your Reverence would not say such a thing if you only knew what I lost for not declaring myself in agreement with Protestant tenets. Had I not always respected religious ideas; had I regarded religion as a science of conveniences or an art of enjoying life; I would now be a rich and free man crowned with honors, instead of being a poor deportee.

      Rizal, a Protestant! Something in me moves me to laughter, but I am restrained by my respect for all that you say.”

      The reason why he refused to be converted to the Protestant faith, as Nellie demanded because he was in the fight to correct the Catholic religion’s practices and traditions that is the reason why he said “had I regarded religion as a science of conveniences or an art of enjoying life; I would now be a rich and free man crowned with honors, instead of being a poor deportee”

      Rizal died as a Hero while searching for the true Church which God had founded.

  21. December 28, 2009 at 5:23 pm | #55

    Haha. I found it.

    http://joserizal.info/Writings/Other/friars_and_filipinos.htm

    The Friars and the Filipinos

    by José Rizal

    NOTE: This unfinished manuscript of Rizal was not given a title. It is sometimes also entitled The Lord Gazes at the Philippine Islands or The Divine Wrath. It is quite possibly the early draft of a novel that never came to completion. Some notes in green brackets by Robert L. Yoder It can be found in an alternate English translation at the following URL:

    http://www.geocities.com/cavitesu/lord.htm

  22. December 29, 2009 at 12:17 am | #56

    This is rather funny.

    “Si Rizal hinarap ang mga akusasyon laban sa kanya sa tribunang militar. Si Soariano nagtatago.”

    Rizal was not aware that he is going to be executed. He is not aware of the deception brought about by the evil colonial Priests and Government Officials to kill him. On the other hand, Bro. Soriano is not hiding. He went out from the country to Preach and not to hide. The fruits of his preaching is very much evident to the number of non-Filipinos who are currently being baptized into the flock.

    • Whit
      January 28, 2010 at 5:33 am | #57

      christiandefenders,

      Rizal knew that he will be executed, the poem “Mi Último Adiós” written during the early hours before his execution and a letter he wrote to his best friend Ferdinand Blumentritt “My dear Brother, when you receive this letter, I shall be dead by then. Tomorrow at 7, I shall be shot; but I am innocent of the crime of rebellion.” are proof of Rizal’s knowledge of his nearing death.

  23. lizeth
    December 29, 2009 at 4:58 am | #58

    Correct me if I’m wrong. Well, as far as I could remember… Dr. Jose Rizal was a remarkable man. He taught us that “pen is mightier than sword. ” Yes, he did made a big change in our history but it didn’t last long enough. Otherwise, if what he wrote was intended to change us for good then corruption and injustice in our country would not prevail…

    Bro. Eli Soriano was a simple man but he was called by God to speak the Truths in the Bible. He doesn’t need to write or become a writer like Dr. Jose Rizal. God’s words are enough to save a man’s soul.

    Bro. Eli is not a person of many titles as Dr. Jose Rizal but his duty as a man of God DID change the hearts of millions around the world. He sacrificed his entire life to call out for the people of God to always walk in the path of righteousness all the days of their lives. (which Dr. Jose Rizal was not able to do…because he was only a man)…

  24. mase
    December 31, 2009 at 3:35 am | #59

    To : Parabanog

    I’m against with what ur stated about the difference between Rizal & Bro. Eli…You were saying that Rizal was there to face the prayle while bro. Eli was gone to abroad and left his case…

    Hey! The reason why lumabas siya ng Pilipinas dahil ayaw niyang madamay ang kapatiran ng Ang Dating Daan dahil sa threaten ng mga INC. Sino ka para magsalita against Bro. Eli? You don’t know things behind it.

    Acutally, parabanog ung sinasabi mong case against bro. Eli hinarap niya yan it so happened na ung accuser wlang matibay na evidence. Ung nagfile ng case against bro. Eli ang talagang nangrape…kaya the case was closed.

    In the topic we are discussing, it’s about Rizal’s language and Bro. Eli’s language speak the same – by being courageous and unafraid to speak the truth. Bro. Eli, speaks the truth about salvation, about bible, about Christ doctrines.

    Don’t just accuse when you don’t have enough evidence and proof.

  25. Phoenixdlanor
    December 31, 2009 at 1:57 pm | #60

    Rizal has the pen, Bro. Eli has the bible…. equivalent to 100 percent sheer, unadulterated truth…..

    • January 28, 2010 at 6:29 am | #61

      @Phoenixdlanor

      I like how you differentiated them -Rizal and Bro. Eli.

      Rizal was also concerned about Filipinos only. His concern was local. Bro. Eli’s concern is humanity.

      I am not sure if Rizal was using his strong language outside his country.

  26. February 13, 2010 at 1:49 am | #62

    Mase wrote:

    I’m against with what ur stated about the difference between Rizal & Bro. Eli…You were saying that Rizal was there to face the prayle while bro. Eli was gone to abroad and left his case…

    Hey! The reason why lumabas siya ng Pilipinas dahil ayaw niyang madamay ang kapatiran ng Ang Dating Daan dahil sa threaten ng mga INC. Sino ka para magsalita against Bro. Eli? You don’t know things behind it.

    My reply:

    You are against with what I said and yet you failed to deal with my arguments head on. What I have stated is true. Jose Rizal faced his accusers in a military court. While Soriano fled. That’s the difference. Your “palusot” that Soriano went out of the country for the reason that he didn’t want your kapatiran to be involved is what differentiates him from Rizal even more. You see, Rizal returned in the Philippines after many years living in abroad, for the simple reason of sparing his relatives from the abuse and maltreatment of Spanish Government which they incurred out of their hatred to Rizal. This is reflected in his letter he wrote on June 20, 1892 in Hongkong prior to his returne to Philippines. He entrusted the letter to Dr. Marques with proviso that it should only be open after his death:

    “Malugod kong itataya ang aking buhay para iligtas ang maraming walang sala – maraming pamangkin, maraming anak ng mga kaibigan, at mga anak ng mga di ko kaibigan – na nagdurusa dahil sa akin. Ano nga ba ako? Isang binata, walang pamilya at masasabing walang alam sa buhay. Marami na akong kabiguan at ang aking hinaharap ay madilim, at magiging madilim kung ang ilaw ay di masisindi sa bukangliwayway ng aking lupang tinubuan. Sa kabilang dako, maraming tao, na puno ng pag asa at ambisyon, ANG MAAARING LUMIGAYA KUNG AKO AY MAMAMATAY, AT INAASAHAN KONG ANG AKING MGA KAAWAY AY TITIGIL NA SA PAG-USIG SA MARAMING WALANG-SALA.”

    Jose Rizal, Gregorio & Sonia Zaide (Centennial Book), pp. 257-258.

    That is the proof. Rizal returned to the Philippines ready to bear the brunt of his enemies’ reprisal and die so that his relatives and friends will be spared from persecutions. Soriano, on the other hand, fled to save himself. That’s the difference.

    Mase wrote:

    Actually, parabanog ung sinasabi mong case against bro. Eli hinarap niya yan it so happened na ung accuser wlang matibay na evidence. Ung nagfile ng case against bro. Eli ang talagang nangrape…kaya the case was closed.

    My reply:

    Case was closed? Eh di umuwi na sya dito sa Pilipinas kung totoo yang sinasabi mo na wala syang kaso. There is a strong evidence against Soriano that is why a warrant of arrest was issued against his person and he is being pursued by the elements of the Law.

    Mase wrote:

    In the topic we are discussing, it’s about Rizal’s language and Bro. Eli’s language speak the same – by being courageous and unafraid to speak the truth. Bro. Eli, speaks the truth about salvation, about bible, about Christ doctrines.

    My reply:

    There is still difference. Rizal is a polyglot while Soriano is not. Rizal is ready to die for his convictions and belief, while Soriano simply can’t. That is why he fled out of the country.

    In Rizal’s letter dated June 20, 1892, he wrote:

    “Ang bawat tao ay kailangang mamatay para sa kanyang tungkulin at mga prinsipyo. PINANININDIGAN KO ANG BAWAT KAISIPAN NA ITINATAGUYOD KO PARA SA KALAGAYAN AT KINABUKASAN NG ATING BANSA, AT KUSANG-LOOB AKONG MAMAMATAY PARA RITO, at mas mamatamisin kong magsakripisyo para makamtan ang katarungan at kapayapaan p[ara sa inyo.”

    Jose Rizal, Gregorio & Sonia Zaide (Centennial Book), p. 257.

    Si Soriano ba pinanindigan niya ginawa niya? Hindi. Tumakas eh. While Rizal died for his beliefs.

    Mase wrote:

    Don’t just accuse when you don’t have enough evidence and proof.

    My reply:

    And don’t just disagree without backing your statements with facts.

    • mase
      February 13, 2010 at 9:17 am | #63

      Hey Parabanog!

      I don’t understand why you’re so angry with bro. Eli? Parang ang hirap mo ring umintindi sa case na ibinintang sa kanya. Kaya nga closed kasi walang matibay na ebidensya c PUTO against bro. eli. And for your information, hindi tinakasan ni bro. Eli ang mga kasong ibinintang sa kanya.

      Bago sya umalis ng bansa hinarap niya yan kahit na wala siyang kinalaman sa mga pinagbabato sa kanya na kaso. Napakatibay na ng ebidensiya namin sa kagaguhang ginawa ni PUTO sa samahan namin lalo na kay Bro. Eli. Anu ang paninindiganan niya? Ung maling katwiran at kaso na ibinabato sa kanya tatanggapin niya?

      Hello! Sinong matinong tao ang tatanggap ng ganung accusation na alam na alam mong sa puso mu e hindi mu ginawa.

      Kaya naman hindi bumabalik ng Pilipinas c bro. Eli dahil sa threats ng INC e. At kahit kami ayaw din nmin siyang umuwi d2 sa Pilipinas lalo na’t gusto siyang patayin ng mga INC. At kaya rin naman siya nasa abroad ay para ipalaganap ang Evangelio Panginoong Hesukristo na until now ginagawa niya.

      Eversince hindi nanindigan c Rizal sa catholic beliefs, Parabanog. Isa nga siya sa bumabatikos sa mga pari maging sa sistema ng gobyerno nuon.

      Si bro. Eli naninindigan sa Evangelio ng Biblia. Kung titingin ka ng isang kaso hindi ung one sided ka lang. Pag-aralan mo ang cedibilidad ng bawat taong involved sa kaso. At tignan mo rin kung paano mamuhay ang mga taong involved. Hindi yung humahatol ka kaagad ng hindi mo alam ang nasa likod ng kaso.

      Sa lahat naman ng mga sinabi mo disagree ako. At kung gagamitan pa kita ng mga statements with facts eh hindi mo rin yun tatanggapin dahil po sarado ang isip mo pagdating sa aming kapatid na Eli at sa aming pinaninindiganang pananampalataya at Aral.

      • February 13, 2010 at 9:24 am | #64

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  27. February 13, 2010 at 1:56 am | #65

    Erratum:

    You see, Rizal returned in the Philippines after many years living in abroad, for the simple reason of sparing his relatives from the abuse and maltreatment of Spanish Government which they incurred out of their hatred to Rizal.

    It should have been: “for the simple reason of sparing his relatives from the abuse and maltreatment which they incurred out of the Spanish Government’s hatred to Rizal.”

    • February 13, 2010 at 2:57 am | #66

      @Parabanog

      Did you want Preacher Eliseo Soriano to return to the Philippines?

      Your wish is very much like that of the Iglesia ni Cristo.

      Nobody and nobody has that wish except them and their likes. You can guess what they would like to happen to him.

      They have already published their motives in Net25: they wanted Soriano killed.

      Objective: to keep Soriano’s mouth shut.

      Are you one of them?

  28. February 13, 2010 at 3:24 am | #67

    @ Whit

    YOU WROTE: Parabanog, I am not good in any country’s history nor I am good in the life story of Rizal. Firstly, because I am not a Historian by profession and secondly history is the least of my favorite subjects.

    Then stop pretending to be one.

    Rizal did not believe in the Catholic dogma that salvation was only for Catholics and that outside Christianity, salvation was not possible even if Catholics composed only a small minority of the world’s religious groups.

    The Catholic Church does not claim that salvation is only for catholics. The Catechism states:

    CCC 847:
    This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

    Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – THOSE TOO MAY ACHIEVE ETERNAL SALVATION.

    So stop progating lies. And stop using Rizal to malign the Church. Rizal didn’t join the ADD group nor any protestant sect. Dream on.

    Nor did he believe in the Catholic observation of fasting as a sacrifice, nor in the sale of such religious items as the cross, medals, rosaries and the like in order to propagate the Faith and raise church funds.

    Please kindly show us proofs that Rizal hated fasting. Come on. Give us proofs. Are you against fasting yourself? Does the bible prohibits fasting?

    Mt 6:17-18 (Ang Biblia)

    17 Datapuwa’t ikaw, sa pagaayuno mo, ay langisan mo ang iyong ulo, at hilamusan mo ang iyong mukha;
    18 Upang huwag kang makita ng mga tao na ikaw ay nagaayuno, kundi ng Ama mo na nasa lihim: at ang Ama mo, na nakakikita sa lihim, ay gagantihin ka.

    The bible states that those who fast will receive a reward.

    With regards to the selling of religious items, what is wrong with that? Do you expect everyone to be free? Pano naman yung mga artisan na gumawa nyan? Saan kukunin yung pangtustos nila? Yung lumpia ba ni Soriano libre?

    He also lambasted the superstitious beliefs propagated by the priests in the church and in the schools. All of these and a lot more are evidences of Rizal’s religious philosophy.”

    Please enumerate those superstitious beliefs your are saying. Kanina ka pa eh. Didn’t you know that the Catholic Church prohibits superstitions?

    CCC 2110:

    The first commandment forbids honoring gods other than the one Lord who has revealed himself to his people. It proscribes superstition and irreligion. Superstition in some sense represents a perverse excess of religion; irreligion is the vice contrary by defect to the virtue of religion.

    This is my advice to you Whit:

    Ex 23:1 (Ang Biblia)

    Huwag kang magkakalat ng kasinungalingan: huwag kang makikipagkayari sa masama, na maging saksi kang sinungaling.

    Please back up your statements with facts. Don’t just propagate age-old lies recycled from time to time.

    How about Soriano? Soriano believe that urine is good for health. Is that ok for you? I think that is superstition. A medical myth to say the least.

    You were wrong when you concluded “Hanggang sa kamatayan, karamay ni Rizal yung mga paring heswita” (until death the Jesuits helped Rizal) to back up the writings of Gregorio and Sonia Zaide.

    Where is the wrong there? Priests not ADD workers were the ones that accompanied Rizal during his last days. If Rizal is really incompatible with the Catholic Church, he should have sent out the priests and ask for a protestant pastor instead. But that is not the case. Even at his last moments, Catholic priests were at his side. That’s the plain truth that you have to accept. Live with it.

    I am not disclaiming the writings of Gregorio and Sonia Zaide I am just going to expound more on the reason why the Jesuits were there marching with Rizal on his last day. The two Jesuits were there to fulfill their service to the Roman Church. What kind of service you may ask, Jesuits were to encourage Rizal to return to the fold. History will attest that from the day Rizal was brought to Dapitan in the province of Zamboanga a peninsula of Mindanao in July 1892, “the Jesuits mounted a great effort to secure his return to the fold led by Fray Sanchez who failed in his mission. The task was resumed by Fray Pastells” please refer to this book “The Rizal-Pastells Correspondence” (Manila: Ateneo de Manila University Press, 1996) authored by Raul J. Bonoan, S.J.

    Don’t act as spokesperson for the two Jesuit priests. They are there to support Rizal during his last moments. Don’t you know that before the execution, Rizal attended a Catholic Mass and not Pasasalamat of ADD? He even received a communion which is given to faithful sons of the church. (heretics are barred from receiving it) Why? Because Rizal have already returned to the catholic fold!
    “3:00 ng umaga ng Disyembre 30, 1896, NAKINIG NG MISA SI RIZAL, NANGUMPISAL, AT NANGUMUNYON.”

    Jose Rizal (Centennial Book), Gregorio & Sonia Zaide, p. 328.

    That’s the truth that your kind simply can’t accept. Rizal live and died a Catholic. Not a protestant. And obviously not as member of your religion.

    EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Governor-General Eulogio Despujol issues a decree dated 7 July 1892 banishing José Rizal to Dapitan, Zamboanga. It contains Despujol’s reasons for issuing the decree, which includes Rizal’s publication of various books and proclamations that introduces ANTI-CATHOLIC or ANTI-MONASTIC views. The decree also prohibits the introduction and circulation of all the works of Rizal in the Philippines. //www.filipiniana.net/ArtifactView.do?artifactID=R2009LMC0093)
    therefore, you are wrong again on claiming that Rizal remain faithful to Catholicism.

    You are misleading us. That’s is still 1892. But what is Rizal’s stand in 1896? Rizal died a catholic. He heard a mass and received a communion prior to his execution. A tangible proof that he returned to the fold.

    Records will show that Jose Rizal’s writings specially his novel, “El Filibusterismo” sparked so much fury to the Roman Church. According to “Nationalista Party History”, Rizal dedicated the said novel to the 3 Filipino martyr priests who were executed at Bagumbayan on Feb. 17, 1872. In memory of the three Filipino priests; Mariano Gómez, José Apolonio Burgos, and Jacinto Zamora.

    But those three priests are catholic Priest. Not ADD church workers. So dream on. And as far as I know, El Filibusterismo is a political and not a religious novel. Rizal attacked the defects of political and social systems of his time. But he didn’t disprove any Catholic dogma. I challenge you to enumerate catholic dogma that Rizal refuted in El Filibusterismo if there is any. C’mon, show it to us.

    The Catholic Church influenced Rizal’s execution according to them,

    Where is your evidence? Stop spewing lies. It is the Spanish Government that carried out Rizal’s execution, not the Catholic Church.

    Rizal was an inciter of revolution. During his trial before a court-martial for rebellion, sedition, and conspiracy the Catholic Church wanted Rizal to retract from his anti-Catholic writings which they failed this led to his conviction of rebellion, sedition, and conspiracy and was sentenced to death on Dec. 30, 1896.

    Lies again. You have it in reverse order. Rizal was already a condemned man when he retracted. Rizal was given a death sentenced by a military tribunal on December 26. Gov Gen Polavieja signed the decision on December 28. Rizal signed his retraction on December 29. So review your history.

    “10:00 ng gabi ng Disyembre 29, ang burador ng pagbawi na ipinadala ng arsobispong anti-Pilipino na si Bernardino Nozaleda (1890-1903) ay isinumite ni Padre balaguer kay Rizal para lagdaan, ngunit hinti ito ginawa ng bayani dahil napakahaba at di niya ito gusto. Ayon sa testimonya ni Padre Balaguer, ipinakita niya kay Rizal ang mas maikling burador na inihanda ni Padre Pio Pi, Superyor ng mga Heswita sa Pilipinas, at ito’y nagustuhan ni Rizal.PAGKARAAN NG ILANG PAGBABAGO, ISINULAT NI RIZAL ANG KANIYANG RETRAKSIYON, NA KUNG SAAN ITINATAKWIL NIYAANG MASONERYA AT MGA RELHIYOSONG IDEYANG ANTI-KATOLIKO.”

    Jose Rizal (Centennial Book), Gregorio & Sonia Zaide, p. 327.

    I agree with what Victor said that “Rizal, being a linguist, read the Bible in it’s Original tongues in Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic to equipped him in his fight against aristocracy particulary the Friar’s who held sway on the Spanish regime…” as a man of intelligence Rizal, surely read different translations of the bible (you will see proofs in his letters to Pastells, he mentioned there that his favored translation was in Latin) to back up his fight against the Friars.


    Rizal fought the abusive friars who used the Church for their own benefit and not the Catholic Church itself. His attack is focused on their wrong doings rather than the official Catholic dogma. So dream on. In Rizal’s letter to Blumentritt dated March 05, 1887 he wrote:

    “Inalisan ko ng takip sa mukha ang pagbabanal-banalan, na sa pamamagitan ng relihiyong ginagawang kanlungan, ay nagpahirap at nagpalagay sa aming parang mga hayop. Sinikap kong ipakilala ang pagkakaiba ng tunay na relihiyon sa di-tunay. Itong huli – and di-tunay na relihiyon – ay nagpapausbong ng pamahiin at gumagamit ng mga banal na salita upang maakit an gaming salapi, UPANG MAPAPANIWALA KAMI SA MGA BAGAY NA DI-MAAARING MATANGGAP NG RELIHIYON KATOLIKA KAILANMA’T AABOT SA KANYANG KAALAMAN.”

    Noli Me Tangere 5th Ed., Jose Rizal (isinalin ni Guzman-Laksamana-Guzman)

    Rizal knew very well that the Catholic Church does not approve the wrong doings perpetrated by some abusive friars in the Philippines. Rizal directed his attacks to these friars and not the Catholic Church. He knew all along that the Catholic Church is the true church entirely different to the false religion of some of the abusive friars.

    That is the reason why he wrote to Priest Pastells in Nov. 11, 1892 “As to my being a Protestant, Your Reverence would not say such a thing if you only knew what I lost for not declaring myself in agreement with Protestant tenets. Had I not always respected religious ideas; had I regarded religion as a science of conveniences or an art of enjoying life; I would now be a rich and free man crowned with honors, instead of being a poor deportee.

    Rizal, a Protestant! Something in me moves me to laughter, but I am restrained by my respect for all that you say.”

    The reason why he refused to be converted to the Protestant faith, as Nellie demanded because he was in the fight to correct the Catholic religion’s practices and traditions that is the reason why he said “had I regarded religion as a science of conveniences or an art of enjoying life; I would now be a rich and free man crowned with honors, instead of being a poor deportee”

    He should be more effective in doing so if he converted to Protestantism. But Rizal didn’t. He remained a Catholic. He attacked the abuses perpetrated by some leaders of the Church in the hope that they will change their ways. But Rizal didn’t leave the Catholic Church. That’s a fact that you have to accept.

    Rizal died as a Hero while searching for the true Church which God had founded.

    Wrong. Rizal died a hero and a catholic. Not as a protestant. Not as a member of ADD.

    • Whit
      February 13, 2010 at 5:11 pm | #68

      Parabanog,

      You started your post with this argument: “Stop pretending to be one”. Funny but true that you are not thinking before you write. First and foremost what I said was very clear. I am not good in any country’s history nor I am good in the life story of Rizal…I should feel grateful when you wrote “Then stop pretending to be one” because I CAN NOT stop pretending to be not a Historian by profession and I CAN NOT stop pretending that history is the least of my favorite subjects”.

      You have a lengthy reply, which is literally dragging.
      You are barking at a wrong tree in your succeeding 3 arguments, therefore your arguments are foul and to enumerate:

      1) I gave you the information of the link where I quoted Rizal’s “religious philosophy” so you are arguing with Answers.com and it’s source.

      Your source for the benefit of the readers of Less Traveled Road was: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm in your arguments with Answers.com. It is The Second Edition English Translation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church includes the corrections promulgated by Pope John Paul II on 8 September 1997. (next time you quote sources: give us the link or better yet the title of the book, author and year published).

      Corrections which he summoned in the midst of an extraordinary session of the International Synod of Bishops way back in 1985. here is the link:
      http://www.ewtn.com/library/CATECHSM/NCOFCC.HTM which I will quote as saying “In 1985, our Holy Father, Pope John Paul II, summoned an extraordinary session of the
      International Synod of Bishops. This was to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the closing of the Second Vatican Council, which concluded in 1965.”

      2) Your source as not only having weak credibility because it emendated it’s original writings but also it was written after 93 years of Rizal’s death. You are being unfair to Rizal.

      3) You are misrepresenting the catholic church and likewise I should not defend in behalf of Answers.com

      Call the attention of the catholic authorities here so you will not be wasting my time and likewise I will contact Answers.com that someone by the funny name (which even sounds like cartoon character from a cheap tabloid newspaper) of Parabanog has arguments with them.

      But I will reply on every last paragraph of every arguments you wrote because:

      1) My sources are not lies. It’s history, based from facts and documents rightly fit on the said events, not like you who back-up your twisted writings with documents 93 years after Rizal’s death. I am not dreamin’ on dude!

      2) I am not against fasting, who is? who are you talking to? Answers.com? again you are barking at a wrong tree here Brownie.

      3) Bro. Eli’s belief in urine therapy is not superstition for your information. That’s just what you think and it’s not a medical myth to say the least. I will quote Educate-Yourself The Freedom of Knowledge, The Power of Thought as saying

      “There are a number of alternative healing therapies that work so well and cost so little (compared to conventional treatment), that Organized Medicine, the Food & Drug Administration, and their overlords in the Pharmaceutical Industry (The Big Three) would rather the public not know about them. The reason is obvious:
      Alternative, non-toxic therapies represent a potential loss of billions of dollars to allopathic (drug) medicine and drug companies.”

      In 1945, John W. Armstrong published a book called The “Water of Life, A Treatise on Urine Therapy” and Martha Christy also published a book on this topic titled our Own Perfect Medicine in the late 1980′s.

      I will quote it again as saying: “Of course, we normally think of both urine and stool elimination as waste, but urine, unlike feces, is totally sterile. Mind you, it’s the filtrate of your own blood. Many people in normal health drink urine daily in order to keep their health and maintain physical beauty. Get the books and read them. In the event of survival difficulties, this simple technique can save your life”.

      4) You wrote: “Hanggang sa kamatayan, karamay ni Rizal yung mga paring heswita. Kaya wag nating gamitin si Rizal para atakihin ang Simbahang Katoliko. Tingnan ninyo ang buong buhay ni Rizal, nabuhay at namatay na katoliko. Hindi nagpaconvert sa ibang sekta.” You’re losing your track, you don’t know what’s wrong. Read again on my reply on why the Jesuits where there? I did not say that ADD workers were the ones who accompanied Rizal and your accusation of me being a spokesperson of the jesuits is totally abusrd. The plain truth parabanog is that you’re not thinking, and analyzing the replies before you write back. Live with it.

      5) Review history again and reference other books to thoroughly understand what happened between 1892 to 1896 of Rizal’s life. Based on fact, Rizal declared himself as a deportee in 1892. I am not misleading the public you are.

      6) You’re totally absurd again on claiming that I wrote GOMBURZA as ADD workers. and I did not say that “El Filibusterismo” is a religious novel. You must be really out of your mind!

      Why would you challenge me on something that I did not write in the first place? Brownie, you are again barking at a wrong tree. Read my previous post again to peruse your twisted mind.

      7) Retraction issues of Rizal are debated for how many years between Historians. Zaide as historian favored on Rizal’s retraction, research on it since you always refer on Zaide’s writings.

      8) You quoted my post based on the fact of Rizal’s letter to Pastells in 1896 and then you replied with a letter of Rizal to Blumentritt dated March 05, 1887. Those 2 letters are for 2 different people in 2 different situation, and in 2 different times. You are again misleading the public.

      9) Your opinion as Rizal being more effective in being converted to Protestantism is because he’s not out of his sane mind to do so, Rizal as an intelligent man will not convert himself on something he doesn’t believe in. The fact that you have to accept parabanog is that Rizal refuted the catholic church until his last breath.

      10) You are in the nth time barking at a wrong tree here brownie. I did not say that Rizal died as a protestant and a member of ADD.

      My advise to you parabanog; next time that you reply on any one’s post do these first: read, analyze and reference rightful documents before you post.

  29. February 14, 2010 at 5:06 pm | #69

    Whit wrote:

    You started your post with this argument: “Stop pretending to be one”. Funny but true that you are not thinking before you write. First and foremost what I said was very clear. I am not good in any country’s history nor I am good in the life story of Rizal…I should feel grateful when you wrote “Then stop pretending to be one” because I CAN NOT stop pretending to be not a Historian by profession and I CAN NOT stop pretending that history is the least of my favorite subjects”.

    Your claim that you are not a historian is just a ruse. It is an alibi just in case you got busted, which indeed happened during our latest exchanges. It is so obvious that you are using Rizal to malign the Catholic Church. I’ve used sources from official references and you purposely avoided dealing with them. So unless you refuted them point by point, my arguments stands.

    You have a lengthy reply, which is literally dragging.

    You are barking at a wrong tree in your succeeding 3 arguments, therefore your arguments are foul and to enumerate:

    It becomes lengthy because you raised a lot of points during your last post. I dealt with them one by one. I avoided nothing. Is that a problem to you?
    On the other hand, you are evading my arguments. So between us too, I am the one who should have been complaining. You don’t know how to argue. You just disagree without supporting your blather with facts.

    1) I gave you the information of the link where I quoted Rizal’s “religious philosophy” so you are arguing with Answers.com and it’s source.

    Oh no. The fact that you’ve used the source from Answer.com means you are in agreement with what it states. Since I’m talking with you, you now have the obligation to defend your position. Don’t be like Pilate who tried to avoid responsibility. Be man enough to defend your position.

    Your source for the benefit of the readers of Less Traveled Road was: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm in your arguments with Answers.com. It is The Second Edition English Translation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church includes the corrections promulgated by Pope John Paul II on 8 September 1997. (next time you quote sources: give us the link or better yet the title of the book, author and year published).

    Corrections which he summoned in the midst of an extraordinary session of the International Synod of Bishops way back in 1985. here is the link:
    http://www.ewtn.com/library/CATECHSM/NCOFCC.HTM which I will quote as saying “In 1985, our Holy Father, Pope John Paul II, summoned an extraordinary session of the
    International Synod of Bishops. This was to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the closing of the Second Vatican Council, which concluded in 1965.”

    So what’s your point? You’ve claimed that the Church teaches that salvation is only for Catholics. I quoted from the Catechism that what you have stated is false. Others can also receive eternal salvation. (CCC#847) And FYI, I have a copy of the book. It’s a definitive edition published by the CBCP. At any rate, you failed to disprove my argument. You are propagating an age-old lie.

    2) Your source as not only having weak credibility because it emendated it’s original writings but also it was written after 93 years of Rizal’s death. You are being unfair to Rizal.

    Oh really? Between you and me, I have used official references to buttress my arguments. You, on the other hand, relied on your saliva. Since you cannot refute my arguments, you are discrediting my sources. Unfortunately, Zaide has more credibility than you as far as history is concerned. This is aside from the fact that you are a self-confessed ignoramus when it pertains to history.

    3) You are misrepresenting the catholic church and likewise I should not defend in behalf of Answers.com

    Call the attention of the catholic authorities here so you will not be wasting my time and likewise I will contact Answers.com that someone by the funny name (which even sounds like cartoon character from a cheap tabloid newspaper) of Parabanog has arguments with them.

    Misrepresenting? You are the one who is misrepresenting the Church. I don’t see any semblance of wit in you Whit. All of your arguments are recycled trash. He he he

    But I will reply on every last paragraph of every arguments you wrote because:
    1) My sources are not lies. It’s history, based from facts and documents rightly fit on the said events, not like you who back-up your twisted writings with documents 93 years after Rizal’s death. I am not dreamin’ on dude!

    Sources? Since when you’ve learned to use credible sources? I disprove every points you’ve raised against the Church. You on the other hand failed to refute my arguments. I thin you are not reading post thoroughly. I’ve used actual letters of Dr. Rizal. I quoted the very words of Rizal to disprove your points and show your utter ignorance in history. So between us, you are definitely the one who is dreaming.

    2) I am not against fasting, who is? who are you talking to? Answers.com? again you are barking at a wrong tree here Brownie.

    If you are not against fasting then what’s all the fuss? The fact that you’ve quoted answers.com to disprove my arguments means you are in agreement with it. So be man enough to defend your position when it is being microscopically scrutinized. What you are doing is passing the responsibility. That is cowardice.

    3) Bro. Eli’s belief in urine therapy is not superstition for your information. That’s just what you think and it’s not a medical myth to say the least. I will quote Educate-Yourself The Freedom of Knowledge, The Power of Thought as saying
    “There are a number of alternative healing therapies that work so well and cost so little (compared to conventional treatment), that Organized Medicine, the Food & Drug Administration, and their overlords in the Pharmaceutical Industry (The Big Three) would rather the public not know about them. The reason is obvious:
    Alternative, non-toxic therapies represent a potential loss of billions of dollars to allopathic (drug) medicine and drug companies.”

    In 1945, John W. Armstrong published a book called The “Water of Life, A Treatise on Urine Therapy” and Martha Christy also published a book on this topic titled our Own Perfect Medicine in the late 1980’s.

    Then I challenge you to drink your own urine. Let’s see if you can do it. The notion that urine is good for your health is more of a staple in pseudoscience circles. Nature has its reason why urine is being expelled in the body. Like what Christ said:

    Mk 7:15 (Ang Biblia)
    Walang anomang nasa labas ng katawan ng tao, na pagpasok sa kaniya ay makakahawa sa kaniya; DATAPUWA’T ANG MGA BAGAY NA NAGSISILABAS SA TAO YAON ANG NANGAKAKAHAWA SA TAO.

    Those things which are being expelled by the body are the ones that make the person unclean. That includes urine. So urine-taking makes a person unclean and can damage one’s health. To teach that urine is good for one’s health is clearly a superstition. It is not a established truth and even the bible is against it.

    I will quote it again as saying: “Of course, we normally think of both urine and stool elimination as waste, but urine, unlike feces, is totally sterile. Mind you, it’s the filtrate of your own blood. Many people in normal health drink urine daily in order to keep their health and maintain physical beauty. Get the books and read them. In the event of survival difficulties, this simple technique can save your life”.

    Read this:

    They say the concentration of nutrients will take more water to get rid of than is present in urine – it will dehydrate you rather than keeping you hydrated.

    “There are no health benefits to drinking your own urine, and in fact, I think it could be quite detrimental,” said Helen Andrews of the British Dietetic Association.

    “Each time you put it back it will come out again, even more concentrated, and that is not good for health.
    http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=31&art_id=vn20060330123123578c624717&page_number=2

    While urine does contain vitamins, this is because the body has taken in a greater quantity of said vitamins than it needs, and is now purging them. No scientific studies have concluded that the consumption of urine has any health benefits whatsoever.
    http://www.ehow.com/facts_5794180_urine-good-drink_.html

    4) You wrote: “Hanggang sa kamatayan, karamay ni Rizal yung mga paring heswita. Kaya wag nating gamitin si Rizal para atakihin ang Simbahang Katoliko. Tingnan ninyo ang buong buhay ni Rizal, nabuhay at namatay na katoliko. Hindi nagpaconvert sa ibang sekta.” You’re losing your track, you don’t know what’s wrong.

    Well, I’m just trying to hammer to your senses that Rizal is a catholic to the end. So your strategy of using Rizal to undermine the Church falls flat in your faces.

    Read again on my reply on why the Jesuits where there? I did not say that ADD workers were the ones who accompanied Rizal and your accusation of me being a spokesperson of the jesuits is totally abusrd. The plain truth parabanog is that you’re not thinking, and analyzing the replies before you write back. Live with it.

    I know what’s wrong. You are trying to show that the two priests were just there just to convince Rizal to return to the Catholic fold. Well he already did. Because prior to his execution and the march to Bagumbayan, Rizal heard a mass and taken a communion. Well, of course ADD have no hand in the matter. Your religion is a newly invented religion. Live with it.

    “3:00 ng umaga ng Disyembre 30, 1896, NAKINIG NG MISA SI RIZAL, NANGUMPISAL, AT NANGUMUNYON.”

    Jose Rizal (Centennial Book), Gregorio & Sonia Zaide, p. 328.

    5) Review history again and reference other books to thoroughly understand what happened between 1892 to 1896 of Rizal’s life. Based on fact, Rizal declared himself as a deportee in 1892. I am not misleading the public you are.

    Oh no. You are the one misleading us. You are quoting things in 1892 to show that Rizal is not faithful to the Catholic Church. But how about Rizal’s views in 1896 during the hero’s last days? Records shows that Rizal has returned to the Catholic Church. One clear proof is that he heard a mass and received a communion before his execution on December 30, 1896. You cannot received a communion if you are not faithful son of the church. One more thing, records shows that Rizal signed his retraction:

    “10:00 ng gabi ng Disyembre 29, ang burador ng pagbawi na ipinadala ng arsobispong anti-Pilipino na si Bernardino Nozaleda (1890-1903) ay isinumite ni Padre Balaguer kay Rizal para lagdaan, ngunit hinti ito ginawa ng bayani dahil napakahaba at di niya ito gusto. Ayon sa testimonya ni Padre Balaguer, ipinakita niya kay Rizal ang mas maikling burador na inihanda ni Padre Pio Pi, Superyor ng mga Heswita sa Pilipinas, at ito’y nagustuhan ni Rizal. PAGKARAAN NG ILANG PAGBABAGO, ISINULAT NI RIZAL ANG KANIYANG RETRAKSIYON, NA KUNG SAAN ITINATAKWIL NIYA ANG MASONERYA AT MGA RELHIYOSONG IDEYANG ANTI-KATOLIKO.”

    Jose Rizal (Centennial Book), Gregorio & Sonia Zaide, p. 327.

    The fact that you are using materials in 1892 then concluding that Rizal is not a faithful catholic (in the process bypassing his later views in 1896) shows your deceitful way of argumentation.

    6) You’re totally absurd again on claiming that I wrote GOMBURZA as ADD workers. and I did not say that “El Filibusterismo” is a religious novel. You must be really out of your mind!

    I’m just trying to hammer to your senses that you cannot use the GOMBURZA to malign the church because first and foremost, they are catholic priest and not ADD workers, proof that your religion is newly invented. I’m just stating a fact. Do you have any problem with that? Your insinuation that the Catholic Church has a hand in the execution of the GOMBURZA is lame. You failed to provide proofs for your tsismis.

    Don’t you know that it is the Archbishop of the Catholic Church that pleaded to the Spanish Civil Government to spare the lives of the three priests because the church believe that they are innocent:

    “KAYA KAHIT NA MISMO ANG ARSOBISPO ANG HUMIHINGI NG KAPATAWARAN DAHIL ALAM NIYANG INOSENTE ANG TATLONG PARI, ipinabitay ang Gom-Bur-Za (Gomez, Burgos, at Zamora) noong bukangliwaywa ng Pebrero 17, 1872, SUNOD SA UTOS NI GOBERNADOR HENERAL IZQUIERDO. Ang kanilang pagkamartir ay ipinagluksa ng mag-anak na Rizal at maraming makabayang pamilya sa Pilipinas.”

    Jose Rizal (Centennial Book), Gregorio & Sonia Zaide, p. 30

    So stop insinuating that the Church has any hand in the execution of the GOMBURZA. Even Rizal acknowledges the fact that the Church believes that the three martyrs were innocent:

    In Rizal’s dedication to the three martyr priests in his El Filibusterismo, he wrote:

    “Sa alaala ng mga paring sina Don Mariano Gomez (85 taong gulang), Don Jose Burgos (30 taong gulang), at Don Jacinto Zamora (35 taong gulang). Binitay sa Bagumbayan noong ika-28 ng Pebrero, 1872.

    ANG SIMBAHAN, SA PAGTANGGING PAWALAN KAYO NG DANGAL, AY NAGPASUBALI NG KRIMENG IPINARATANG SA INYO; ang pamahalaan, sa paglalambong ng hiwaga at karimlan sa inyong poaglilitis, ay nagbigay dailan sa paniniwalang may pagkakamali sila sa maselang pagkakataong ito,…”

    Jose Rizal (Centennial Book), Gregorio & Sonia Zaide, p. 236.

    You see that? Rizal admitted himself that the Church believed that the GOMBURZA were innocent. The Catholic Church is not responsible for their execution. You’re busted again, Whit.

    Why would you challenge me on something that I did not write in the first place? Brownie, you are again barking at a wrong tree. Read my previous post again to peruse your twisted mind.

    But it is part of your counter-argument so be man enough to defend your position, Witless. You see, it is so easy to fabricate lies but proving it is a different matter. You keep on stacking lies one after another. When you are asked to prove it, you are abandoning your position and you are washing your hands from the issue. What do you call that? That’s cowardice. So ano? Mai-enumerate mo ba yung mga catholic dogma na binaka ni Rizal sa El Filibusterismo?

    7) Retraction issues of Rizal are debated for how many years between Historians. Zaide as historian favored on Rizal’s retraction, research on it since you always refer on Zaide’s writings.

    But we have documents and facts to support our position. How about you? What is your proof that Rizal died an anti-catholic? Show us your evidence. Sawa na ako sa mga daldal mo eh.

    You quoted my post based on the fact of Rizal’s letter to Pastells in 1896 and then you replied with a letter of Rizal to Blumentritt dated March 05, 1887. Those 2 letters are for 2 different people in 2 different situation, and in 2 different times. You are again misleading the public.

    Oh no. I think you are the one who is not reading well. I quoted Rizal’s letter dated March 05, 1887 as a response to your statement expressing agreement with Victor. (i.e., that Rizal read the bible in its original language) I quoted said letter to show to everyone that Rizal is not an anti-catholic. Rizal knew all along that the Catholic Church is the true religion and that the Church will not agree on the abuses of some friars in the Philippines. Rizal attacked the abuses of the friars, not the Catholic Church itself.

    So I think you are the one misleading us to hide your inability to deal with my arguments point by point.

    9) Your opinion as Rizal being more effective in being converted to Protestantism is because he’s not out of his sane mind to do so, Rizal as an intelligent man will not convert himself on something he doesn’t believe in..

    So Rizal remained a catholic. He didn’t consider other religion as viable or true that is why he remained a catholic. And he didn’t join your cultic group. That’s a fact. Live with it.

    The fact that you have to accept parabanog is that Rizal refuted the catholic church until his last breath

    Documents please. Where is your proof?

    We on the other hand have proofs that Rizal died a catholic. (i.e., retraction, Rizal receiving the holyu communion prior to his death, etc.) How about you? What is your proof that Rizal died an anti-catholic? You should know better. Statements without a shred of facts are trash. And since you are so fond of trashy statements, it speaks volume about your person, Witless.

    10) You are in the nth time barking at a wrong tree here brownie. I did not say that Rizal died as a protestant and a member of ADD.

    I know because to say so is suicide on your part. I’m just simply stating an obvious fact. That Rizal died a catholic and not a protestant, much more an ADD member. That’s a fact that you have to live with. Accept it.

    My advise to you parabanog; next time that you reply on any one’s post do these first: read, analyze and reference rightful documents before you post.

    My advice to you, Witless; next time, you should accompany your statements with facts. Don’t evade my arguments, try to be man enough and defend your position instead of to pointing others.Lastly, avoid making lies. God hate liars.

    Kawikaan 12:22 (Ang Biblia)
    MGA SINUNGALING NA LABI AY KASUKLAMSUKLAM SA PANGINOON: nguni’t ang nagsisigawang may katotohanan ay kaniyang kaluguran.

    • Whit
      February 16, 2010 at 9:22 pm | #70

      Helloooo there? anybody home? (knock on your brain) ‘coz you picked a wrong word-”ruse”, for the second time in a row you are not thinking before you write, you really are wasting my time! ruse for your information and for Less Traveled Road readers means “a trick, stratagem, or artifice”. My being not a Historian is not an artifice.

      Your following sentence which I will quote as saying: “It is an alibi just in case you got busted, which indeed happened during our latest exchanges”. What latest exchanges are you talking about? This is for the record, my 3rd. reply to you. The first one was I replied on Jan. 28 regarding your comment dated Dec. 16, 2009s post, then of course you replied back on Feb. 13, then I replied back on same day regarding your lengthy post. This is so far my 3rd. and for the record you haven’t busted me yet dreamer!

      It is not so obvious that I personally malign the catholic church, the books did. I gave you facts and references to dispute your Dec. 16, 2009 post. I did not purposely avoid your references, in fact I disputed all of your references, dreamer. Therefore, your arguments which you claim still “stands” (hmmm sounds familiar) have fallen like the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (yup! that old) hahaha :)).

      Now, look who’s talking? you were the first one who raised a lot of points in your Dec. 16, 2009s post up until now. I avoided none of your arguments. So between us two, you are the one who really should complain because you got busted for 2 consecutive times on my previous 2 posts. For this third post, get ready to face the public and reveal yourself.

      You don’t know how to argue because you support twisted writing with facts way too far from the actual date of Rizal’s death.

      Oh no too!. The fact that you’ve used the Catholic Church Catechism as source means you are in agreement with what it states which you only affirm to everyone that you got busted. I have been defending my “stand” ever since dreamer brownie, and don’t be so conceited to think that I’m like Pilate who’s trying to avoid responsibility. In fact to prove to you that I am man enough to defend my faith I call for a debate, don’t be like Elias Ibarra from topix.net who gave me too many alibis to avoid himself on a LIVE DEBATE broadcasted via livestream so people could watch. Tsk, tsk Elias Ibarra could have been famous and his face would have been all over the world.

      I won’t go on lengthy reply here. I hope you don’t mind if I won’t read the rest of the paragraphs in your post, because I dare you to show yourself to the public. I summon you for a LIVE DEBATE NOW!

  30. February 16, 2010 at 12:06 pm | #71

    kotawinters :
    @ Parabanog
    Josepherdon did not say anything about Rizal wanting to join ADD.
    ADD is not protestant.

    I know, because for him to say so is suicide on his part. Masusukol siya. I’m just stating a fact. What I did is quoting the very words of Rizal himself. He finds the idea of leaving the Catholic faith and joining the protestants as preposterous. How about you? Do you have any proof, like admission of Rizal himself that the Catholic Church wanted him dead? Or any letters from Rizal directly renouncing the Catholic Church?

  31. CONCERNED CATHOLIC ADD TV PROGRAM VIEWER
    February 17, 2010 at 6:06 am | #72

    Hello Parabanog aka Mr. Arganiosa.

    you are such an attention-getter because you are lacking attention.

    you are one of those idiots and cowards who only fight the ones you really expect not retaliated in return.

    I think your fellow CFD Cenon Bibe Jr. is braver than you are because he is not afraid of attacking INC people who are known for being vengeful.

  32. CONCERNED CATHOLIC ADD TV PROGRAM VIEWER
    February 17, 2010 at 6:41 am | #74

    You foolish Arganiosa aka Parabanog.

    It doent mean that a man retracted from his former beliefs shall mean that his former beliefs are wrong.

    if that is the Catholicism’s logic, It shall imply that It is right to backed out from the Biblical teachings you once believed and in return you prefer to believe on the doctrine of lies.

    The Catholic Church cannot simply refute Dr. Rizal’s attacks on Catholic teachings so She uses the unending and debatable retraction issue to nullify Rizal’s attacks on Catholic tenets.

    anyway just add these what I shall say to your bigot mind Arganiosa aka Parabanog. THERE ARE MORE PROVEN FACTS HAPPENED IN THE LIFE OF RIZAL THAT HE REALLY WILL NOT RETRACT:

    1) Rizal’s most favorite teacher Fr. Sanchez tried to bring his most favorite student to go back to the Catholic fold when he was on Dapitan.

    but Rizal did not adhere to what his most favorite teacher wishes.

    What’s more to follow Jesuits who are with him on the jail to sign their retraction formula who are not Rizal’s most loved priest.

    besides you agree that Rizal declined to sign the retraction prepared by Archbishop Nozaleda. Meaning he is that steadfast to his belief that he will never return to the Church because Fr. Sanchez also failed to bring Rizal back to the fold. Rizal will never also adhere to the persuation of the Jesuits who are with him to sign the Jesuit version of retraction.

    2) It is a known fact that Rizal’s family never seen the retraction letter alleged signed by Rizal. If he really retracted, those enemy friars of Rizal will gladly show it to their enemy’s family.

    3) Fr. Balaguer who is an alleged witness that Rizal retracted before the latter died never testified to the people in the morning of 30 of December 1896 that he retracted. The priest said it after a number of years.

    4) We can see that the Jesuits and the enemy friars of Rizal are colluding to make Rizal retract. The proof is they both have their own version of retraction formula.

    So it is not a false accusation that even Rizal did not retract, they will make it appear that he retracted after his death. (because they both fear that the next generation of people who will read Rizal’s letter with Anti Catholicism on it shall cause mass apostasy within the Philippines)

    5) Rizal was not even given a proper burial secretly after he was killed. his body was not even put into a sack. It is a proven fact that he was buried like a dead dog (w/o a coffin) IS THIS THE RIGHT BURIAL FOR ALLEGED REPENTED SON OF THE CHURCH?

    6) There are 4 copies of alleged Rizal’s retraction appeared. If really Rizal retracted, the original contents of the retraction formula and the one that was published on Manila newspaper and on Barcelona newspaper should be the same and not different. It also includes that was found on May 1935.

    7) Why the alleged original copy of retraction that was found on 1935 suddenly appeared when the time is near that it shall be investigated to find out that if is really genuine or forgery? (DOES THE CHURCH BEHIND THIS BECAUSE THEY FEAR THAT IF IT IS FORGERY, THE PEOPLE MIGHT BELIEVE ON RIZAL’S ATTACKS ON THE CHURCH AND MIGHT CAUSED MASS APOSTASY IN THE COUNTRY?)

    8) Jose Palma was one of the witness of the actual execution of the hero. he himself saw that Rizal refuses to kiss the crucifix.

    When you will go to Manila City Hall, you will see there inside the bldg is Rizal’s large execution portrait. There you will see that never wore a rosary or scapular prior to what those pro retraction defenders claim that before who will be shot is he wore a rosary and scapular.

    So the Jesuits story that he confessed, heard mass and receive Communion is not true.

    9) Josephine Bracken never have a marriage certificate as alleged by pro retraction defenders that after the hero retracted is the 2 are married.

    If that is true, she should be able right away to own the properties of Rizal at Dapitan. but Josephine was with those KKK fighters after his husband was killed and never accumulate Rizal’s property at Dapitan. (a marriage certificate is necessary to own the dead husband’s property)

    10) The friars never gave a mass for Rizal’s soul if Rizal came back to the Catholic fold.

    Rizal’s name was not included in the list of dead Catholics on Dec. 30, 1896 but it was on the list of people who died in an accidents.

    IS THIS THE RIGHT TREATMENT FOR ALLEGED REPENTED SON OF THE CHURCH?

  33. CONCERNED CATHOLIC ADD TV PROGRAM VIEWER
    February 23, 2010 at 7:32 pm | #75

    I want you to let it know to all that Rizal did not even adhered to Father Pastells invitation to retract his errors on religion when Rizal was exiled in Dapitan.

    Father Pastells wanted Rizal to retract so that Rizal can live in a convent.

    but Rizal declined and preferred to live at the house of his warden Captain Carnicero.

    Father Sanchez tried to bring his most favorite student back to Catholicism but he failed.

    These are the proofs that Rizal will not retract and obey to the wishes of the Jesuits to sign a retraction letter. because even Fr. Sanchez failed. what’s more to the Jesuits whom Rizal are not that so much close to?

    Rizal knew that Catholic religion during his time is really used by the friars to put the Filipinos under their rule especially to their puppet politicians.

    The friars always say that It is bad to learn Spanish, to finish studies and it is better to live always as a farmer to the Filipinos so that they will not learn to fight for their rights and to fight their abuses. for short, they made our countrymen so dumbed.

    Rizal cant take that very hurtful truth. retracting his attacks on the faith of his enemy friars who used religion may mean that it is ok to follow the friars who used religion to conquer the minds of his countrymen.

    In his letter to Blumentritt, Rizal attacked the faith of the friars in order to fight to enemy who used religion as a shield, fortress and as a weapon.

    Rizal became an anti Catholic and wrote some arguments that is against the Church’s teachings to free his countrymen from the beliefs the friars are imposing to them.

    Rizal believed that believing the friars and their beliefs will make you forever dumb and coward.

  34. CONCERNED CATHOLIC ADD TV PROGRAM VIEWER
    May 4, 2010 at 6:26 pm | #76

    @ Kotawinters.

    Yes, Parabanog is Fr. Abe Damaso Arganiosa.

    he is using it to attack other people.

    when in his blog, he is using Fr. Abe.

    • May 12, 2010 at 1:50 pm | #77

      Haha! Padre, why did you need to hide if what you say is true?

  35. Persecuted Editor
    May 17, 2010 at 7:52 am | #78

    I am calling to those who are experienced in editing Wikiepdia. It is beacuse the article of Bro. Eli Soriano in Wikipedia has some lies…such as the so called “Interpol Red Notice” thing, In fact, their reference is only a cheap web archive not run by Interpol. The article (in Wikipedia) is currently locked for new and unregistered editors. We need to get that “Interpol Red Notice” part removed. Wish you Good Luck!

    • May 28, 2010 at 5:21 am | #79

      @Persecuted Editor, That “Interpol Red Notice” is a legacy to the ignorance of the Iglesia ni Cristo that the Interpol would believe their lies. It tells of how far they can go to move heaven and earth to get what they want. Was there ever an arrest? None!

      The Wikipedia earns from that. The more controversial the information, the better for them.

      An army of editors will not be able to remove that element. Have you tried? I have. And many times, it was returned.

  36. gau
    September 16, 2010 at 4:17 am | #80

    Bro eli.. a good person… he teaches us to love all people.. even the worst of our enemy.. in watching in his programs i have learned a lot, respect for my Parents, ant to the other People around us.
    Bro eli .. i miss him so much.. before he flew abroad he kept telling us that he never wanted to be in other country..
    But the INC with the help of Gloria Arroyo did all things, ways to kill , to assassinate not only his person but his own life.
    Bro eli is more than as rizal is.
    INC always claiming to be of God.
    and keep on motivating their members that what ever decision have their Leader conducted or Said is of God’s will and Guidance.. I have a lot of Questions to their God. if really Mrs. Gloria Arroyo our former Pres. is the reaL Pres. whom choosen by the God of INC ,why? Why did Gloria Done this to our Country. I DONT WANT TO TELL YOU ALL THINGS WHAT gLORIA DID OR DONE TO OUR cOUNTRY..

    i am not good in english.. but i know the readers of this sites could understand what i mean to say..

    Bro eli.. we Love you.. and i pray to our God that he give you the half of my life to be use in propagating the True Gospel of God. i have no resources to share but if God would Permit , if i will able live for another 20 years i want it to share it to you.
    and to the members of INC God knows all ,, Bro eli is INOCENT..
    i know in your heart you that what bro eli has said is true.. God Bless

  37. Jo
    November 22, 2010 at 4:21 am | #81

    thanks be to God for I had found this blog. Aside from learning history of that of Dr. Jose Rizal, I even realized many things about Bro. ELi Soriano and his immeasurable love for the word of God.

    Thanks be to God for sending us a preacher like Bro. Eli.

    Many can compared with Bro. Eli and Bro. Eli to other great men, but one thing is incomparable, he is the only sensible preacher of this time, and can tell the truth about the Bible in this dispensation.

  38. Carl Richard C. Dagalea
    December 30, 2010 at 1:28 am | #82

    We are thankful for having in the midst of us a preacher of God who sheds light for us to walk on the right path, s that we won’t stumble and fall into the ditch. Bro. Eliseo F. Soriano has done remarkably great things by being God’s instrument so that people would understand the Holy Scriptures.

  39. December 30, 2010 at 7:39 am | #83

    si bro. soriano ay hindi tumatakas sa kanyang kaso katunayan pa nga ay mayroong abugado na umaasikaso sa kanyang kaso.kaya ayaw niyang umuwi ay baka siya ipapatay ng mga kampon ng dimonyo sa pilipinas….

  40. maegan
    December 30, 2010 at 5:02 pm | #84

    To Parabanog:

    I wish you will not be accused falsely, maligned publicly and receive death threats over nationwide broadcast someday. You speak as if you have all the guts in this world that you can repeatedly face false accusers in court. Let me put it this way: What will you do if you are in the shoes of Bro. Eli? After the case was dismissed by the court, the same false, baseless accusation was filed against you coupled with death threats by an influential, crooked organization which is supportive of your complainant? As a rational being with the right to protect and preserve one’s life (for the sake of your loved ones) like you, will you do as you commented here: “Heh, oh really? Soriano told the people to CONFRONT the facts? Why is it that he can’t confront/face his accusers in court and instead resorted into hiding? Seems like a classic example of a preacher who can’t practice what he preached.” It is easy for you to throw words like this because you are not experiencing it. But for a religious leader like Bro Eli (there’s nobody like him, by the way) who thinks or regards highly of other people’s salvation, safety, and sake over himself and in so doing, he needs to reach out to these people by propagating the good news, through Live Bible Expositions, Mass Indoctrination, Live Broadcast of Ang Dating Daan, and other outreach programs…do you think it is best that he is alive than his life wasted by facing one false accusation of a devil’s advocate like Puto? A sentient being like you will think twice before you do such a hasty move of facing your false accusers in court…unless of course, you have no value of the family and the people you love…and yourself as well. How much more in the case of Bro. Eli? He is the Presiding Minister of the Members of the Church of God International of which its members are countless (we do not count our members just as we can not count the multitudes of angels who also come to our gatherings during Thanksgiving). As I heard it from our preacher, we are after the safety of each member of the Church of God.

    I pity you, Parabanog. Sawayin ka nawa ng Panginoon. Huwag ka sanang dumating sa punto ng buhay mo na ikaw ang akusahin at paratangan ng mali sa korte ng mga tao.

  41. jeff022784
    January 3, 2011 at 4:07 pm | #85

    Leave parabanog alone… di naman nya alam ang buong storya e… unless INC member yan na walang makikitang tama sa ating mangangaral, pero kung di naman, eh di nya alam ang buong picture ang buong scenario kumabaga, nakikichismis lang yan…

  42. June 11, 2011 at 5:40 pm | #86

    I am not worthy to be compared to any great human in history! I am nothing! I am myself — and content to be. My being a nobody moved my GOD to use me as a humble piece of trash for the benefit and convenience and (God-willing) for the salvation of people far more important to God than me. After all things are said about my person, let me be abased and my GOD exalted and praised forever. AMEN!

    • December 30, 2011 at 3:09 pm | #87

      we love you brother Eli.

    • admin
      December 31, 2011 at 2:01 pm | #88

      Wow! That was Bro. Eli responding to what we are talking about here! Thanks be to God! We were just being excited at what we discovered.

      There is really a close comparison in their language and we only noticed it when we were doing some translations of Rizal’s works.

      • January 1, 2012 at 5:40 pm | #89

        Bro. Eli is really one of a kind. I’m very proud, glad and grateful to God we have him.

    • February 21, 2012 at 7:46 am | #90

      AMEN

  43. July 4, 2011 at 12:51 pm | #91

    what are the accuses to dr. jose rizal ?

    • July 4, 2011 at 2:59 pm | #92

      Rolando, have you read the title?

      That is the topic – the language.

  44. September 13, 2011 at 11:17 am | #93

    with respect y would u even say that word on our heroes page

    excuse me we are not killers

    and are u even sure dat our ministers shot you mom???

    and one more thing “my mom killed..”
    is wrong on my brain dictionary it neeeds and requires to be my mom WAS killed>:-(

  45. NFOX
    December 30, 2011 at 3:02 pm | #94

    they really have similarity..

  46. alf
    January 6, 2013 at 5:06 pm | #95

    si bro eli siya ang tunay na sinugo

  47. October 17, 2013 at 4:58 am | #96

    Their language are alike because they’re both straight forward who fearlessly cuts hypocrisy and lies with righteousness while being martyrs in a common country they grew up with from two different ages of political and religious abuse.

  48. joemar
    January 1, 2014 at 5:26 am | #97

    Only God can gag his mouth

  1. January 6, 2011 at 3:06 pm | #1

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